Nov 20, 2023 County Commission-Regular

AND ALSO, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION IN REGARDS TO PERSONNEL.

SO MOVED.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT TO ADD KIRKMAN MICHAEL AS ITEM THREE A AND, UH, LEGAL PERSONNEL EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALSO ON NUMBER SEVEN, SHOW OF RIGHT HANDS FOR APPROVE PER NY.

FIVE.

AND OH, I'D MOVE TO ACCEPT THE, UM, AMENDED AGENDA.

I'LL SECOND.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HELM TO APPROVE THE AMENDED AGENDA.

AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARR.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONSENT AGENDA.

FIVE AND OH

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SO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HELM, A SHOW OF RIGHT HANDS FOR APPROVAL.

FIVE AND OH,

[3. New Employees]

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

NEW EMPLOYEES.

APRIL, NONE THAT ARE PRESENT.

THREE A ROADIN BRIDGE, KIRKMAN, MICHAEL.

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UH, THE TABLE I HANDED OUT IS KIND OF THE, UH, INFORMATION FROM THE PAVEMENT POURING PROJECT.

UH, THERE'LL BE AN OFFICIAL REPORT WITH ALL THE PRETTY PICTURES AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMING.

BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE INITIAL, UH, DATA THAT WE HAVE.

UH, THE, YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE HAVE YOUR THICKNESS COLUMN.

UH, MOST OF YOUR PAYMENTS ARE FAIRLY THICK, UH, FIVE, SIX INCHES.

YOU DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SECTIONS THAT WERE LIKE ONLY TWO TO THREE INCHES.

UH, NOW THE OTHER ONE THERE IS YOUR PASSER RATING.

UH, THAT P-S-S-E-R, IT'S A, UH, SYSTEM DEVELOPED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN FOR RATING PAYMENTS.

UH, ESSENTIALLY YOUR PAYMENTS ARE ALL BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN, WHICH IS FAIRLY DECENT.

IT'S IN NEED OF SOME MAINTENANCE, BUT NOT FAILING OR BAD.

UH, ESSENTIALLY THE PASSER RAINS ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A ONE AND A 10.

UH, 10 BEING, YOU KNOW, FRESH ASPHALT OR CONCRETE, AND ONE BEING TEAR IT OUT, YOU'RE DONE KIND OF SITUATION.

UH, SIX AND SEVEN.

SIX IS BASICALLY KIND OF IN THAT.

IT PROBABLY NEEDS A NEW OVERLAY.

UH, SOME SORT OF HIGHER MAINTENANCE.

UH, SO WE'RE KIND OF WHERE WE'RE EXPECTING TO BE THERE.

UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP 'EM IN THAT SIXES BEFORE WE, UH, GET IN TROUBLE.

GET TOO TERRIBLY FAR.

UH, THE ONLY BAD PART IS THAT LIKE ALL OF YOURS ARE IN THAT SAME CONDITION.

SO , UH, THE OTHER ONE I HANDED OUT IS THE MAP.

UH, THIS WAS KIND OF THE OVERLAY SCHEDULE AS WE SEE IT RIGHT NOW.

AND IT'S KIND OF, I'LL TRY AND REDO THIS TO GET THE, UH, COLORS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BETTER OR ADD A LABEL OR SOMETHING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO READ.

'CAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THAT LITTLE COLOR IS VERY, UH, SMALL.

SO, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S PANHANDLE IS 24, EARLY 24.

UH, THE MEAD LAKE ROAD AND KISMET WOULD BE LATE 24.

UH, THE BYPASS, UH, SATANIC CUTOFF IS 25.

THE OLD 83 WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DOING THE BOX EXTENSIONS IS, UH, 26 AND THEN 27 IS NINE ROAD 28 IS, UH, WHAT IS THAT ONE THERE? THAT'S TT, YEAH, THAT'S T FROM KISMET.

THAT'D BE ONE 60 IS GONNA BE, THAT'LL BE 20 RIGHT THERE, GOING TO 27.

AND THEN THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL BE 16, GOING TO ONE 60 RIGHT THERE.

WE DIDN'T LETTER THOSE MAPS COMMISSIONERS.

UH, YEAH, THEY KIND OF CAME LETTERED, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE, IT'S KIND OF, THEY'RE SMALL HARD.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ROADS, IT'S, I CAN, UH, START WITH A AND COUNT 'EM IF YOU'VE GOT .

I MEAN, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS ASKING, WE'LL I'LL, I'LL TRY TO HELP.

SO, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, NEXT ONE IS BACK OVER TO UH, B AND C.

WELL, C AND B.

AND THEN IT'S SEAL WIDE AWAKE ROAD FROM WHERE WE LEFT OFF UP TO 51.

IT'D BE BLUE BELL AND SEVEN.

I THINK THAT ONE IS 23.

THAT'D BE, THAT'S 27.

27.

THAT'S 27 ROAD FROM 83 OVER TO T AND THEN THE LEGS OFF OF IT.

BUT PRESENTED TO US, LIKE THE KIND OF BREAKDOWN, IS THIS THE SAME OR DID THIS CAUSE US TO VARY A LITTLE BIT? UH, I THINK BLUE BELL SHIFTED UP A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE IT'S HEAVY COLLECTOR.

AND THEN THE COUPLE LEGS, COUPLE OF MILES OFF OF IT.

THREE MILES OFF.

THIS WON'T, THIS WON'T HAPPEN.

SO CW, WHEN YOU GUYS PRESENTED THIS LAST TIME, OR NOT THIS,

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IT'S, IT, IT'S GOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND IT'S PASSER RATING IS KIND OF IN THAT MIDDLE.

SO THAT'S ONE THAT I'M, IT MIGHT SHIFT A LITTLE BIT AGAIN AS WE GO ON THROUGH THE YEARS.

IF IT STARTS, WE WANT TO CATCH IT BEFORE WE LOSE IT.

AND THAT'S ONE WITH ENOUGH TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON IT.

BUT OKAY.

AND THEN COMMISSIONERS, UM, AFTER THE LAST UM, COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS MEETING, THE CITY OF KISMET, UM, CAUGHT ME AT COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND ASKED IF WE HAD THEM CORE MAIN STREET WHEN WE ASKED THEM TO CORE AND WE DID NOT ASK YOU TO CORE THAT.

UM, THEY HAVE COME FORWARD ASKING IF WE WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE KIRK AND MICHAEL CORE THAT AND DEPENDING UPON THE EXTRA COST, I DUNNO WHAT IT WOULD COST TO ASK YOU TO COME BACK OUT AND DO A CORING OF KISMET MAIN STREET.

THEY SAID THEY MIGHT BE WILLING, UM, TO POSSIBLY PAY FOR A PORTION OF THAT.

BUT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE DONE SINCE YOU DID EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THE CORING WOULD LOOK LIKE OF THE UM, KISMET MAIN STREET.

I CAN CHECK ON IT.

I THINK WE'RE DOING CORING AND GRAY SO THE MACHINE ALL WOULD BE OUT HERE.

AND SO IF WE CAN KIND OF TIME IT WITH THAT THEN THERE'S NOT NEARLY AS MUCH ADDITIONAL EXPENSES BRINGING IT ALL BACK OUT HERE FOR THAT SPECIAL.

I JUST, UH, BUT I CAN CHECK ON WHAT THOSE TIMELINES LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN COST WOULD BE.

AND IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW IF IT'S A POSS AND THEY CAN DETERMINE THEN IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY BASED ON COST.

YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

UH, OTHER THINGS, THE H TRIPLE R CALL FOR PROJECTS CAME OUT LAST WEEK AND SO THEY UH, AND WE'VE GOT OUR FINAL, WELL FINAL DRAFT YEAH.

LRSP PLAN, WHICH DOES HAVE THAT ROAD AND EXTENDING THE BOXES ON IT BOXES.

WE ARE PLANNING TO APPLY FOR THAT THROUGH THE H TRIPLE R FUNDING.

UM, AND COST SHARE ON THE MEADOW LAKE ROAD.

COST SHARE'S ON 13 COST SHARE ON 13.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT SELECTIONS NEXT WEEK.

SO, UH, CROSS YOUR FINGERS.

YEP.

THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.

TALK TO SOME OF THE UH, PEOPLE BUILDING THE UH, UH, DAIRY UP THERE AND THAT THING'S GONNA BE HUGE.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR SEWARD COUNTY AND THE STATE.

SO HOPEFULLY, UH, C ALL WILL AGREE.

THEY'VE ALREADY SPENT A DECENT BIT OF MONEY ON THAT DAIRY, SO A LITTLE BIT MORE IS WOULDN'T HURT WOULD IT? .

SO, UH, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK YOU GOOD? I THINK THAT'S IT.

THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT FOR US.

SO THE ONLY ROAD REALLY THAT'S IN GOOD SHAPE FOR A CHIP AND SEAL AT SOME POINT WILL BE IT'S OLD SECOND STREET ROAD, RIGHT? YEAH.

THE ONE THAT YOU GUYS HAD RECENTLY REDONE.

, YOU SAID SEVEN YEARS BEFORE YOU HAVE TO CHIP AND SEAL.

I MEAN AFTER YOU ASALTO ROAD SIX OR SEVEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO, THIS ONE HERE.

OH.

UH, IT ALL KIND OF DEPENDS UPON YOUR TRAFFIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SEVEN'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LONG.

YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING LIKE THREE TO FIVE.

BUT WE DID THAT.

THIS ONE HERE THREE YEARS AGO.

YOU'RE PROBABLY, IT'S A SEVEN SO IT'S PROBABLY KIND OF GETTING DOWN THERE.

IT WON'T BE BAD TO LOOK AT.

AT SOME POINT GS SEE A ON IT.

THE ONLY BAD PART IS IT'S BEING THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTY.

IT'S KIND OF EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT ONE BY ITSELF.

THAT'S TRUE.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU CAN WELL, THE CITY CHIP SEALS WHAT? YEAH.

I MEAN JUST EVERY YEAR THEY'RE TRYING TO GET BACK ON A ROTATION.

MAYBE WE COULD TIE IT IN WITH THAT.

DID THEY DO THEIR OWN CHIP SEAL OR DID THEY HIRE NO, WE HIRED OUT.

WELL WE'VE BEEN CHIP SEALING A THIRD EVERY YEAR, HAVEN'T WE? WE HAVEN'T.

WE DIDN'T SHIP, WE HAVEN'T CHIPS SEALED ANYTHING SINCE I, SINCE I STEPPED THERE.

I BELIEVE THE CITY SAID AT THEIR TOWN HALL THEY WERE CHIP SEALING.

SO YEAH,

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I THINK, AND PLEASE DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, BUT I THINK THEY SAID IT HAD BEEN SEVEN YEARS.

BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE THREE TO FOUR YEARS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.

SO MAYBE WE COULD TIE IN WHEN THEY DO.

SOME OF THAT CITY PIGGYBACK ON THEM, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT PROJECT BEING KIND OF BY ITSELF RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE CITY.

AND THEN TRY AND GET BACK ON THAT KIND OF ROTATION.

, YEAH.

ROTATION.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMERS? TAMMY, YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

STEVE.

CJ? YEP.

FOR SNY? I GUESS NOT.

SO WE CAN LEAVE A COPY FOR PRONE IF SHE OKAY.

ALRIGHT, I'LL TAKE THAT.

SO ARE YOU HAPPY KIND OF WITH THE THICKNESSES THAT YOU'RE SEEING THOUGH? YEAH, I MEAN I SAW THAT ONE TOO.

TWO AND A HALF.

THERE WAS A COUPLE OF 'EM THAT WERE THIN AND I KIND OF, I QUESTIONED OUR GUYS ON WHETHER THEY MADE SURE THEY GOT THE FULL DEPTH ON A COUPLE OF 'EM BECAUSE IT KINDA WAS AN ODD ONE.

'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE THERE WAS LIKE AN ODD CORE IN THERE THAT WAS THIN AND THE REST OF THE ROAD WAS PRETTY GOOD.

UH, AND SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO TELL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES JUST A SECTION OF THAT ROAD WILL BREAK DOWN AND IT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT BASICALLY, IT'S LOOKING JUST LIKE DIRT OR WHATEVER WHEN YOU'RE BASICALLY PULLING IT OUT THERE.

SO IT'S HARD TO TELL THAT NO, IF YOU KEEP GOING ANOTHER INCH DOWN, YOU'LL HIT HARD STUFF AGAIN.

ASPHALT AGAIN MAYBE, BUT SOMEWHAT ON TO THEIR DEFENSE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S DISCONNECTED AND NOT REALLY FUNCTIONING AS A FULL ASPHALT DEPTH ASPHALT ALSO.

SO IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT EXACTLY A FEW OF THOSE AREAS.

IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY ONLY AN INCH AND A HALF OR TWO OR WHETHER THERE'S MORE UNDERNEATH IT AND YOU JUST HAPPENED TO HIT A BAD SPOT.

ON THIS BEFORE WE, BEFORE I CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU PROPERLY.

I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED WE EVEN HAD 'EM THAT THICK.

WELL, YEARS AND YEARS OF CHIP SEALS AND ASPHALT OVERLAYS ADD UP OVER TIME.

UH, AND THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, FOR THE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE, UH, I MEAN I THINK KDOT, LOTS OF TIMES THEIR ROADS ARE GOING IN AT LIKE 12 TO 18 INCHES THICK.

SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN AT OUR SEVEN, WE'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE ON THE LIGHT SIDE FOR SOME OF, OF THESE ONES THAT CARRY A LOT OF HEAVIER TRUCKS.

SO LOT OF GRAIN TRUCKS AND CATTLE TRUCKS, THAT'S FOR SURE.

SO SILAGE AND DAIRY TRUCKS, DAIRY TRUCKS, , I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF TRUCKS.

IT IS JUST A LOT OF TRUCKS OUT HERE.

THERE IS, YES.

SO, OKAY.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

SO NOTHING ELSE? NOPE.

I THINK BOBBY HAS A FEW MORE ROAD BRIDGE UPDATES THAT HE NEEDS TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING.

YEAH, I KIND OF WANTED TO, I KIND OF WANTED TO BRING YOU UP TO PAR ON A FEW THINGS.

UH, WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT ROUGHLY OUT OF OUR SPECIAL HIGHWAY, OUR TWO 15 ACCOUNT.

WE'VE SPENT AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AS OF THE START OF THE SUMMER.

WE GOT BUSY DOING SOME PROJECTS.

WE DID THAT R ONE PROJECT OVER IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.

UH, WE STARTED DOING ROAD TWO FROM GRAND D**E TO THE EAST.

AND THEN WE STARTED DOING IT TO THE WEST AS WELL ON THE WEST SIDE OF 83.

THESE PROJECTS AREN'T DONE YET.

WE, WE WERE MOVING AROUND AND TRYING TO, TRYING TO GET SOME THINGS TAKEN CARE OF.

WE BROKE DOWN SEVERAL TIMES, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT FINISHED YET.

AND I HATE TO MOVE ON AND START UP ANOTHER PROJECT.

UM, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT O AND PI KNOW THAT THEY NEED SOME, THEY NEED SOME ATTENTION.

ESPECIALLY O IT'S BEEN BEAT UP PRETTY GOOD.

P'S P I'M, I'M SEARCHING RIGHT NOW FOR, I'M LOOKING AND TALKING AND RESEARCHING SOME PEOPLE ABOUT SOME CHEMICALS TO PUT ON BOTH ENDS OF IT TO MAYBE HARDEN, MAYBE MAYBE TAKE CARE OF THIS WASH BOARD.

UH, I'VE GOT TWO OR THREE OTHER PEOPLE THAT I NEED TO VISIT WITH ABOUT THAT.

AND IF WE FIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ONE OF THESE IS ABOUT SIX, SIX TO SEVEN, I THINK HE SAID $7,200 A TOTE, WHICH IS ABOUT A MILE.

SO, AND IT'S, I'M A LITTLE BIT FRESH IN THIS.

I NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH

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UM, I'VE BEEN LOOKING, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT TRUCK THAT WE LOST SOME TIME BACK HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING, UH, AND I'VE FOUND, I'VE FOUND SOME TRUCKS ARE HIGH.

I, IT'S KIND OF CRAZY HOW HIGH THESE TRUCKS ARE RIGHT NOW.

BUT, UH, I HAVE FOUND A COUPLE WITH, WITH DECENT MILEAGE ON THEM.

AND I SAY DECENT MILEAGE AT TWO 80.

TWO 60.

AND SOME OF THESE DAY CAP TRUCKS ARE BRINGING 70 AND $80,000.

I LOOKED AT ONE FRIDAY OUT THERE.

THEY BROUGHT IT DOWN FROM HAYES.

IT WAS A 15 MODEL AND IT WAS A NICE TRUCK.

IT HAD 460 SOME THOUSAND MILES ON IT AND THEY WANTED 89,000 FOR THE TRUCK.

YOU KNOW, EIGHT YEARS OLD WITH THAT MANY MILES.

IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND I, I'VE, I'VE SPOKEN WITH APRIL ABOUT THIS.

WE HAVE, I HAVE FOUND A COUPLE OF PETER BELTS THAT ARE DECENT TRUCKS.

THEY'RE DAY CAMP TRUCKS AND THEY'RE A LITTLE LIGHT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN HAYES.

AND I'D LIKE PERMISSION.

I CAN REPLACE ONE.

I'D LIKE PERMISSION AND MAYBE TRY TWO.

I'VE GOT TWO.

I'VE GOT ONE UNDER A WATER TRUCK AND ONE IN THEIR LOW BOY THAT THEY CLEAR BACK IN THE LATE SEVENTIES, EARLY EIGHTIES, LATE SEVENTIES.

AND THEY'RE GETTING FEEBLE.

I DON'T WANT TO TRADE 'EM.

'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU NOTHING FOR 'EM.

I'D RATHER AUCTION THE THINGS OFF.

I THINK YOU'D GET MORE MONEY WITH IT THAT WAY.

PLUS, WHILE THEY'RE SITTING HERE, I COULD ALWAYS USE ONE FOR A SPARE.

I'VE GOT A TRAILER TO BUY TO REPLACE THE ONE THAT, THAT, UH, WE LOST.

THEY'RE AROUND.

THEY'RE AROUND, THEY'RE AROUND $60,000 FOR A NEW ONE.

I THINK I, YOU KNOW, IF I LOOK AROUND HARD ENOUGH, I THINK I CAN FIND A GOOD USED ONE, BUT TIME IS, TIME IS NOT HELPING US ANY.

BUT I HAVE FOUND A COUPLE OF TRUCKS.

I LIKE TO HAVE PERMISSION TO PURCHASE ANOTHER TRUCK TO STICK UNDER EITHER OUR WATER TRUCK OR, I MEAN OUR WATER TANK OR OUR LOWBOY, WHICH WE NEED.

AND THESE TRUCKS ARE OLD IN FEEBLE THOUGH.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF 'EM HAS BEEN IN THE SHOP FOR A MONTH.

WE'VE HAD IT IN THERE.

SO ARE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR DAY CABS? JUST THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL WE NEED.

WE DON'T NEED ANY, WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE BUT A DAY CAB.

YOU KNOW, AND, UH, TRUCK IS FOUR AND A QUARTERS BIG ENOUGH FOR YOU AND NEED MORE THAN THAT? NO, MUCH.

FOUR AND A QUARTERS RIGHT THERE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GEARED RIGHT.

WE, WE GET BY WITH THAT JUST FINE.

THESE, THESE HAVE A COUPLE OF THAT.

PETER BROTHER, I THINK THEY GOT A COUPLE OF PACK CARS IN 'EM.

THEY'RE LIKE 4 55 RIGHT IN THERE.

SO NOTHING, NOTHING TOO BIG.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I CAN BUY THESE TRUCK.

THE FINANCIAL IMPACT WOULD BE IN AND AROUND 120,000.

THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT 60 FOR THE PAIR OF THEM.

I, I TRY TO GET 'EM OFF OF THAT A LITTLE BIT.

UH, THEY LOOK PRETTY CLEAN.

I HAVEN'T HAD MY HANDS ON 'EM, I DON'T KNOW YET, BUT, UH, BUT I'M LOOKING, I'D LIKE TO REPLACE 'EM RIGHT IN THERE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD FIND ANOTHER ONE AND GET OUT, GET OUT, GET BOTH OF 'EM BOUGHT FOR RIGHT THERE FOR A TOTAL OF 120 OR LESS.

SO COMMISSIONERS, UM, WE HAD THE INSURANCE.

YEAH, I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S OKAY.

UM, SO THEY DID MAKE US AN OFFER FOR SETTLEMENT.

I WENT OUT AND STARTED LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SETTLE AMOUNT, THAT, UM, THEY, THEY GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION WHEN THEY GIVE YOU THE SETTLEMENT OF, UM, COMPARISONS.

TO TELL YOU WHY THEY'RE GIVING YOU THE SETTLEMENT THAT THEY ARE.

UM, THE TRUCKS THAT BOBBY'S LOOKING AT, THEY'RE MORE, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING HAZE, BUT THOSE ARE MORE LOCAL.

SOME OF THEM THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, WE'RE ABLE TO FIND BETTER BUYS WITH A LITTLE BIT LOWER MILEAGE.

AND WHEN I'M TALKING LOWER MILEAGE, INSTEAD OF 400,000, WE'RE TALKING 250,000 MAYBE.

UM, THEY WERE IN LINE WITH WHAT INSURANCE WAS WILLING TO SETTLE WITH US ON OUR TRUCK.

UM, SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THEM THAT I LOOKED AT WE'RE IN DALLAS, UM, TO FIND ANYTHING WITHIN REASON, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER LOCALLY, WE'RE PAYING, YOU'RE PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 49 50, YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THE SIXTIES.

SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW FAR YOU WANT US TO LOOK OUT.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO SHIP IT HERE OR TO GO AFTER IT AND DRIVE IT BACK HERE TOO.

SO, UM, THERE'S SOME CONSIDERATION IN THAT.

BUT I DO FEEL LIKE, UM, AND BOBBY, YOU BROUGHT THOSE INSURANCE NUMBERS WITH YOU THIS EVENING.

WE GOT, WE GOT APPROXIMATELY 68,000 AND SOME CHANGE FOR THE TRUCK AND THE TRAILER.

SO WHAT KIND OF TRAILER DID WE LOSE? PARDON ME? WHAT KIND OF TRAILER? DID WE LOSE? THE BODY DUMP OR WE YEAH, WE LOST THE BELLY DUMP TRAILER.

MEAN THERE WAS, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S TWEAKED PRETTY HARD.

WE, WE WOULD JUST, WE'D HAVE FOUGHT.

IT WAS A TOTAL LOSS ON BOTH.

WE HAD, UH, AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL FIGHTING HIM.

SO, UM, THE SPARE THAT WOULD, THAT'D GIVE US, THAT'D GIVE YOU A LITTLE INSURANCE.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE,

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UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY HELP, BUT, UH, WE'RE KINDA AT A STALEMATE RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, I'VE LEFT, I'VE LEFT RANDY IN THE OFFICE QUITE A BIT.

HE'S DOING, YOU KNOW, HE IS DOING QUITE A BIT OF SAFETY STUFF RIGHT NOW.

AND OF COURSE WE ARE ALL, WE'RE ALL WE'RE, WE'RE USED UP PRETTY GOOD.

SO, UH, WE'RE TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING ROCK ON THE ROADS.

SO THEREFORE, I WAS THINKING ABOUT MAYBE I HAD TALKED TO TODD CARLISLE ABOUT MAYBE HAULING SOME ROCK TO US, IS WHAT I HAD TALKED TO.

AND IT SEEMED A LITTLE PRICEY FOR ME.

AND WE WERE GO, WE WERE GOING AFTER IT FOR IN AND AROUND $300, MAYBE A LITTLE 3, 3 50 A LOAD.

MAN, THEY, THEY'RE WANTING FOUR AND A HALF.

I DID TALK TO APRIL ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.

UH, I DID, I DID ASK HIM TO CONSIDER THE WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR TRUCKS, THE MILEAGE AND THE LABOR COST THAT WE HAVE IN SENDING SOMEBODY AFTER IT AND DOING A COMPARISON ON THAT COMPARED TO WHAT THEY WERE WILLING TO HAUL IT FOR US TO SEE IF IT WAS WITHIN REASON BECAUSE WE ARE SO SHORTHANDED.

UM, SO THAT I BELIEVE IS THE NUMBERS THAT HE'S GIVING YOU THIS EVENING.

WE'RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF IT.

I I, I'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING YET, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO EXPLORE IT A LITTLE BIT TO FREE US UP TO GET IT ON THE ROAD.

IF I GET SOMEBODY TO GET IT TO ME, I CAN PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, RUNNING TWO OR THREE TRUCKS A DAY.

I WE'RE ONLY RUNNING THREE, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES TOO.

SO WE ALSO HAD $50,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR A PICKUP, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET ANOTHER ONE FOR HIM FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT DOES FREE UP $50,000 IN HIS EQUIPMENT BUDGET TO APPLY TOWARDS THE TRUCKS THAT HE'S ASKING YOU.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA FOREGO THAT PICKUP.

WE CAN GET BY WITHOUT IT RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT.

SO QUESTIONS.

SO IT WOULD BE LIKE 150 A LOAD FOR TRUCKING FROM BRIAN'S CORNER TO WHEREVER YOU'RE AT.

TO OUR YARD RIGHT NOW.

UH, BUT LIKE IF YOU WERE DOING A ROAD, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING A ROAD TWO, IT WOULD BE THE SAME TO DUMP IT THERE AS IT WOULD BE THE TWO.

IT DIDN'T WORK OUT TOO BAD.

BUT I, THAT'S WHERE I FOUND OUT EARLIER, THAT FIRST PROJECT THAT WE DID, WE, WE DID, WE MADE OUT ON THAT.

BUT WE'RE KINDA SPINNING OUR WHEELS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING EVERYBODY LOCKED UP, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE EQUIPMENT GOING.

SO WE DIDN'T DO BAD, WE DIDN'T DO TOO BAD RIGHT THERE, BUT YOU START, YOU START TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER 30 MILES.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T, WE'VE NEVER PUT ANY MATERIAL UP NORTH ANY PLACE.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT HERE.

AND, AND IT'S, AND WE CAN, WE CAN GET IT FROM HERE TO THERE.

BUT RATHER THAN HAULING IT FROM THERE TO YOUR YARD AND LOADING IT AGAIN, I MEAN, TO ME IT WOULD BE BEST JUST TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND SKIP HANDLING IT TWICE.

THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

IF THAT ALL WORKS.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE ONLY RUNNING TWO TRUCKS A DAY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT VERY MUCH DOWN.

YOU KNOW, YOU'D STILL RUN YOUR TWO TRUCKS A DAY THOUGH, RIGHT? WE'RE RUNNING TWO TRUCKS.

I MEAN PLUS, PLUS PLUS AND OUR TRUCKS.

OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GONNA JUST SHUT YOUR TRUCKS DOWN.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

WE'RE, NO, I GOTTA ROLL 'EM, YOU KNOW, I GOTTA KEEP 'EM GOING.

AND YOU KNOW, I, MY 20, MY 2020 ROAD WAS TORE UP PRETTY BAD SOME WHENEVER THEY WERE ALL HAULING UP IN THERE WHEN THE, WHEN THE INSULATES TRUCKS AND STUFF, AND IT WAS TORE UP PRETTY GOOD.

AND I HAD SOME PHONE CALLS ON IT.

AND I, I NEED TO GET UP THERE AND DO A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK UP THAT WAY.

IT'S, IT'S TOUGH LEAVING THESE PROJECTS OPEN AND THEN GOING SOMEPLACE ELSE AND STARTING ANOTHER ONE.

YOU KNOW? UH, IT'S, AND I, I HAVE REMINDED BOBBY THAT WE HAVE ONP AS A PRIORITY.

PEOPLE ARE ASKING ABOUT IT.

I WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE OVER MY LUNCH HOUR TODAY AND I GOT HIT UP THERE ABOUT, YEAH.

IS THE WORK COMING ALONG ON O-N-P-O-N-P-O-N P'S ALWAYS A PRO.

I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS A PRIORITY, BUT I MEAN, THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID IN SURE.

WORK SESSIONS AND TOWN HALLS OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS ON THOSE ROADS.

SO THEY'RE WATCHING FOR THAT.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS JUST, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT HAPPENED, BUT IT DID.

SO, BUT IT'S A, I THINK THIS WOULD BENEFIT US, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT COMING OUT OF, AND WE HAVE, I HAVE, UH, THERE'S $744,000 IN THERE APPROXIMATELY IN OUR EQUIPMENT FUND.

THERE'S ABOUT 3.4 IN OUR TWO, IN OUR TWO 15 ACCOUNT.

AND THERE'S ABOUT ONE AND A HALF IN OUR GENERAL, UH, I DON'T WANNA DEPLETE THAT.

I DON'T WANNA DEPLETE THAT TWO 15 ACCOUNT.

I, I WANNA KIND OF KEEP THAT THERE.

I WANNA KEEP WORKING ON THESE ROADS, BUT MECHANICALLY WE NEED A COUPLE OF GOOD PIECES THAT WE CAN RELY ON.

SO, AND I,

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AND SO OF THAT $700,000 BALANCE THAT HE HAS AN EQUIPMENT, 400,000 YOU GUYS HAD SET ASIDE AND CIP FOR A NEW ROAD GRADER THIS YEAR, YOU HAD SET ASIDE FOR A DUMP TRUCK YOU HAD SET ASIDE FOR A PICKUP.

I'M GOING TO HAD SET ASIDE FOR SALT BOX.

THAT'S CORRECT.

25,000 FOR SALT BOX, 75,000 FOR A DUMP TRUCK.

I'M GONNA FOREGO THE DUMP TRUCK AND TRY TO GET BY WITH THE THREE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WHICH WE'VE BEEN BAND-AIDING THEM HARD.

BUT WE REALLY NEED TO FIX THIS SEMIPRO AND I NEED TO BUY A TRAILER AND, YOU KNOW, UH, A NEW ONE.

I THINK YOU CAN BUY A NEW ONE.

I LOOKED AT A NEW ONE FRIDAY.

IT WAS LIKE 52,000.

AND IF I CAN FIND A GOOD USER, I'D RATHER GO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UNLESS, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANNA INSERT.

I MEAN, IF A NEW DAY CABS ARE OUTTA SIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST LOOKS LIKE TO ME, IF WE CAN HAUL LOADS FOR LESS THAN A HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR FOR A TRUCK, IT'S NOT A BAD RATE.

I, I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU, AND I THINK ESPECIALLY WHEN HE GETS STARTED ON THAT O AND P PROJECT, IF WE COULD HAVE THEM HAUL DIRECTLY TO THE SITE, RIGHT, YEAH.

FOR THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED FOR THOSE TWO ROADS, THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.

COST-WISE.

EVEN MORE SENSE TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHORTAGE DRIVERS.

WE'RE, WE'RE SURE WE'RE SHORT.

I EVEN CRAWL IN 'EM, YOU KNOW, WHICH WHENEVER I CRAWL OUT OF THAT OFFICE AND CRAWL IN WHEN IT TAKES EVERYTHING OUTTA THAT, BUT IT TAKES AWAY, SO FRANKIE DOES TOO.

I MEAN THEY'RE, I REALIZE THEY'RE SELLING THE GRAVELS.

THEY'RE MAKING MONEY THERE.

BUT THE FREIGHT RATE TO ME SOUNDS VERY REASONABLE.

SO.

WELL, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL UNTIL WE CAN LOCATE SOME TRUCKS TOO, TO, I'M NOT SAYING NOT GET THE TRUCKS, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, MM-HMM.

THE FREIGHT IS REASONABLE, RIGHT? YOU THINK IT IS.

THAT'S, I THINK IT'S VERY REASONABLE.

YOU THINK FREIGHT AND MATERIAL IS REASONABLE TO GET WHAT I, WHAT I MENTIONED WHAT CARLISLE SAID? YEAH.

WITH 4 52 A LOAD AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY LOOKING AT CLOSE TO HOUR AND 35, 45 MINUTES DOWN THERE AND BACK TIME THEY GET LOADED.

DEPENDS ON WHO ELSE IS HAULING AND HOW BIG THE LINES ARE.

SO, BUT I'M EXPLORING THAT.

I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE IT A LITTLE FURTHER IF, IF NOBODY HAS ANY BEATS OBJECTIONS, TRUCKS, HAVING EXTRA TRUCKS SITTING AROUND, IF WE CAN JUST GET 'EM ON THE AS NEEDED BASIS.

IT'S, HOW MANY TONS IS THAT? 25.

25 YARDS.

TONS RIGHT IN THERE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE CHARGED ME OF COURSE UP MY PLACE.

THEY'VE CHARGED ME $500 FOR A BOBTAIL LOAD TO YEAH, THEY'RE OF JUST CONCRETE SAND.

THEY'RE, YEAH, THEY'RE, WELL THEY'RE UP FOUR AND A HALF.

FOUR.

FOUR AND A HALF OR, OR THAT, YEAH, I JUST THOUGHT IT, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE HEAVY FOR US, BUT JUST KINDA KEEPING AN EYE ON THINGS AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF VULNERABLE.

I JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE THE FEELING I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO BE ROLLING AND GOING AND DOING IT AND, BUT, BUT ALSO BEING MINDFUL OF EVERYTHING AS WELL.

SO, UH, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR PERMISSION TO LOOK AT THIS OTHER TRUCK.

I CAN TAKE CARE OF ONE PRETTY GOOD.

WELL IF WE USE THE 50,000 FROM THE PICKUP FOR ONE TRUCK AND INSURANCE FOR THE OTHER TRUCK.

ALL THAT OUT.

IS THE TRAILER, IS THERE A MOTION? SO I MOVE THAT WE USE THE 50,000 FOR THE PICKUP AND THE 68,000 FROM THE INSURANCE SETTLEMENT TO LOOK AT THE TRUCKS.

WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT ABOUT THE TRAILER? YOU WANNA INCLUDE IT? AND COULD YOU PLEASE WAIVE THE PURCHASING POLICY BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW THE PURCHASING POLICY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT USED EQUIPMENT TO INCLUDE THE TRAILER AS WELL AND WAIVING THE PURCHASE POLICY GOING FOR THIS PURCHASE.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LOOKING FURTHER AWAY.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT THAT MUCH TO GET YOUR STUFF TRUCKED HERE.

SO, SO WE HAD A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT FOR THE TWO TRUCKS AND THE TRAILER.

AND THE TRAILER, YEAH.

TO USE THE 50,000 FROM THE PICKUP AND THE 68,000 INSURANCE AND WAIVE THE PURCHASING POLICY TO GET PICKUP THE TRAILER.

THEN IS THERE A SECOND? ME SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HELM.

THANK YOU.

FIVE AND OH PER 70?

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THEN YOU'LL LOOK AT THE FREIGHT COSTS STILL WITH J AND R.

YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA EXPLORE THAT.

I WANNA DO A LITTLE MORE EXPLORING.

I'M, I'M, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SIT ON THIS STUFF VERY LONG.

I'VE GOTTA MOVE AROUND AND I GOT A LOT OF MOVING AROUND TO DO, SO, OKAY.

WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN VISIT ABOUT SOME THINGS SOME MORE IF YOU LIKE, BUT, UH, I'VE GOT STEVE, THAT'D BE A WAY TO GET SOME OF THIS ROAD WORK PRETTY QUICKER.

SO, BUT WE DON'T TAKE IT TO THE YARD AND UNLOAD IT AND THEN, I MEAN WE HANDLE IT ONCE, NOT TWICE I, IF IT'S OKAY BY THE COMMISSIONERS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOBBY AND I CAN DISCUSS AND MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT THE BEST USE OF THAT WOULD BE AND IF, AND THEN ONCE WE GET OUR PERSONNEL BACK UP, IF WE GET IT BACK UP, WE CAN GO BACK JUST A HAUL.

BUT STILL IF WE MAJOR PROJECT.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS, I MEAN IT'S FROM TIME TO TIME IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

WELL AND I THINK RIGHT NOW IS A GOOD TIME TOO BECAUSE J R'S WORKING ON A LOT OF PROJECTS LOCALLY RIGHT NOW.

AND SO THEY'RE AVAILABLE IF, IF THEY'RE OFF IN OTHER LOCATIONS ON PROJECTS, THEY'VE LET US KNOW TOO THAT IT'S HARDER FOR THEM TO FIND THE TIME TO HAUL TO US AS WELL.

AND THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A QUESTION MARK AS WELL.

WHENEVER I TALKED TO HIM, HE WAS BUSY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE ALL THIS OLD 83 WAS GOING AND, AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

THEY HAD OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL GOING.

SO.

BUT ANYWAY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I'LL VISIT WITH YOU AFTER MEETING OR TOMORROW.

'CAUSE I'D BEEN LOOKING AT TRUCKS AND, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH SOME TRUCKS THAT ARE PRETTY DECENT PRICED.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S FUN.

I THINK TRUCKS ARE COMING DOWN A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THEY'RE STARTING TO, BUT I THINK SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TERRIBLY IN DEMAND AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I CAN'T, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO LOOK AT THE TRUCK THAT WE WRECKED.

THE TRUCK WE WRECKED UP THERE WAS, IT HAD LESS THAN 200,000 MILES ON IT.

THOSE TRUCKS, THAT TRUCK, HE BOUGHT BOTH THOSE TRUCKS AND THEY WERE DD THIRTEENS.

THEY WERE DECENT TRUCKS.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOING WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO FOR US.

AND YOU KNOW, IF THIS OTHER END FAILS UP HERE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA KEEP ON LOOKING UNTIL WE FIND SOMETHING.

SO, BUT THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOING WHAT THEY WERE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO AND YOU KNOW, AND YOU, WE TRY TO KEEP 'EM IN THE BEST SHAPE THAT WE CAN.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK OUTSIDE THE AREA.

DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT LOOKING.

WELL I WANTED TO STAY HERE TOO 'CAUSE THERE'S STUFF BACK EAST.

THEY SALT STUFF BACK THERE HARD, YOU KNOW, IN THE WINTERS AND, AND A LOT OF STUFF SETS A LITTLE BIT AND IT'S RUSTY NASTY.

SO YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY I WANTED, PRIMARILY SOMEBODY DOWN SOUTH.

I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF BOXES THAT GOING ON DOWN SOUTH.

MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF BELLY DUMPS AND PLATE MODEL TRUCKS.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CENTRAL PARISH SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR THE GENERATORS.

THESE TRUCKS, THESE TWO THAT I'M LOOKING AT ARE 17 MODELS AND THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 200,000 MILES ON BOTH OF 'EM.

SO THEY'RE IN, YOU KNOW MAN, IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT THEY, THAT THEY'RE ASKING THAT KINDA MONEY FOR STUFF THAT'S FOUR OR FIVE, 600,000 MILES ON IT.

I JUST, YOU KNOW.

ANYWAY.

WELL THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY, THANKS.

[4. Central Power Service Agreement - 11 Generators]

GREG GRACE.

EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, I'VE GOT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR FROM CENTRAL POWER FOR THE, UH, ANNUAL MAINTENANCE ON THE 11 GENERATORS THAT THE COUNTY OWNS.

AND I GUESS I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD MAKE A MOTION JUST UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO IN ALL THE GORY DETAILS.

, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH CENTRAL POWER FOR 10,250 PER YEAR FOR OUR 11 GENERATORS.

FOR THE ANNUAL JUST COMMENT.

HE WILL STILL DO SOME MAINTENANCE ON THE GENERATORS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

WHERE WE ACTUALLY PUT THE LOAD TEST, HE'LL PUT THE LOAD TEST ON THE GENERATORS.

AND PULL THAT BUILDING.

SO THIS IS ON THE POWER, THIS IS MORE POWER, THIS IS MORE MECHANICALLY.

YEAH, THE ENGINE SIDE MOSTLY.

SO, AND THERE IS A CONTROLS AND TRANSFER SWITCH PARAGRAPH IN THERE ALSO FOR ANNUAL.

THEIR OWN WASTE, DON'T THEY? I'M SORRY? PER SENY.

SO THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HELM TO APPROVE THE 10,250 FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE INSPECTION.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT SHOW OF RIGHT HANDS FOR APPROVAL.

THEY DO HANDLE

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THEY DO HANDLE THEIR OWN WASTE.

[5. County Email Upgrade]

FIVE, COUNTY EMAIL UPGRADE.

CLAYTON HOOVER, CHANGE NUMBER.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

CLAYTON HOOVER WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT.

WHAT I HAVE THIS EVENING FOR YOU IS, UM, A QUOTE FOR UPGRADING OUR COUNTY EMAIL SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

NOW, THE CURRENT SYSTEM WE'VE HAD SINCE 2012 IS AN IMAP UH, SOLUTION.

UH, IT'S VERY LIMITED IN MAILBOX SIZE AND SCALABILITY.

THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO WITH IT.

IT'S PRETTY BASIC.

IT'S ONLY HAS 10 GIGA GIGABYTE MAILBOX SIZES PER USER.

UM, AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE EXCEED THAT LIMIT AND THEN THEIR EMAILS START BOUNCING.

THEY DON'T GET THEIR EMAILS.

SO WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAN A FEW OF THOSE UP AND, UH, ARCHIVE A FEW OF THOSE AND, AND FREE UP SOME SPACE.

BUT PAST COUPLE YEARS I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, UH, UPGRADING THIS AND IT'S ALWAYS JUST GOT PUT TO THE BACK BURNER FOR OTHER PROJECTS SEEMS LIKE.

BUT, UH, WELL WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PUB WORKS, I THINK IT'S TIME WE SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THIS UPGRADE.

UH, THE HOSTED ONLINE EXCHANGE PLAN THAT WE HAVE QUOTED FROM OTTAVA.

'CAUSE UH, WE, WE ACTUALLY USE OTTAVA NOW WITH OUR IMAP, OUR HOSTED IMAP SOLUTION.

UM, AND THEY HAD, UH, WE'D BEEN WORKING WITH CHAD HOLCOMB, THE CLOUD CONSULTANT FOR OTTAWA AND WE'D BEEN DEALING WITH HIM FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TRYING TO WORK UP A, A GOOD DRAFT ON, ON WHAT WE NEED FOR THE COUNTY, UH, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY ANYHOW.

AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT DRAFTS, UM, BROUGHT UP.

BUT THIS ONE HERE IS A GOOD BASIC START.

UM, IT HAS OUR 260 ORIGINAL EMAIL BOXES, BUT IT, UH, ALSO IN INCREASES UP TO TWO 80, UH, WITH, UH, SOME OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE THERE.

AND THAT, THAT TWO 80 IS THE, THE NUMBER I THINK WE NEED TO BE AT RIGHT NOW FOR MAILBOX SIZE FOR THE COUNTY, UH, SINCE WE NEED TO ADD SOME MORE FOR, FOR THE PUB WORKS PART OF THINGS.

BUT THAT WILL INCREASE THE MAILBOX SIZE UP TO 50 GIGABYTES.

SO IT'S FIVE TIMES THE MAILBOX SIZE.

UH, WILL ALSO GIVE US CALENDARING AND CONTACTS ACROSS ALL DEVICES NOW WHERE BEFORE WE ONLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT AT ALL WITH THE CALENDARING OR CONTACTS.

SO THAT, THAT'LL BE A, A BIG BENEFIT THERE.

WE ALSO HAVE, UH, ON THE QUOTE, THE FIRST OPTION FOR THE 30, UH, THAT'S LISTED THERE BASICALLY COMES UP TO $2 A MAILBOX EXTRA FOR ENCRYPTION SERVICES.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT COULD UTILIZE THAT, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT, UH, IT'S HIGHLY SCALABLE SO WE CAN ADD AND REMOVE THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT PANEL ON WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY CAN USE OR WHAT THEY NEED.

SO IT'S, UH, IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL I THINK.

AND IT'S, IT'S TIME THAT WE TOOK A SERIOUS LOOK AT THIS.

UH, I THINK IT GOES UP OF WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW IS BASICALLY $2 A MAILBOX, BUT THAT'S A VERY BASIC AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN PAYING JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF PER MAILBOX PER MONTH FOR 11 YEARS GOING ON 12 YEARS NOW.

BUT THE, UH, HOSTED EXCHANGE WILL GO UP TO BASICALLY 4 62 PER MAILBOX.

SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE DOUBLE WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW, BUT WE'RE GETTING QUITE A BIT MORE FOR OUR MONEY.

UM, I KNOW I DIDN'T, UH, OF COURSE I HAD BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR A COUPLE YEARS, BUT I HADN'T REALLY PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.

SO IF, IF APPROVED, I KNOW I'D TALKED IT OVER WITH APRIL, OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

SO IF HE WAS TO APPROVE THIS UPGRADE, IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE RESERVE FOR CLAIMS, SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND FOR 2024.

AND THEN IN

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2025 I CAN BUDGET IT IN THE COUNTY TECHNOLOGY FOR 2025 AND GOING FORWARD.

BUT, UH, THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ACCEPT THE QUOTE FROM OTTAVA TO MIGRATE OUR CURRENT EMAIL SYSTEM FROM IMAC TO THE HOSTED EXCHANGE.

AND I I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THE MIGRATION COSTS ARE WAIVED SINCE WE'RE STAYING WITH OTTAWA AND THAT CAN BE FAIRLY PRICEY.

WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH CHAD, HE'S SAID SOME HORROR STORIES ABOUT ANYWHERE FROM 3000 UP TO $10,000 FOR MIGRATION COSTS ON SOME MIGRATION SERVICES, BUT THEY ARE WAIVING THOSE MIGRATION COSTS.

ANY QUESTIONS? SO THIS WILL NOT BY MIGRATING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, WE WON'T LOSE EMAIL HISTORY, WILL WE? NO, AS IN, AS IN WHAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR UP FROM 2012 TO NOW OR STARTING WITH.

I MEAN WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN SO MUCH EMAIL HISTORY AND THIS WILL NOT DELETE IT OR MAKE IT GO AWAY OR ANYTHING.

NO.

THAT'S EXPERIENCE SPEAKING.

SO IF ANYTHING ELSE, I MEAN I WILL DEFINITELY, WE CAN GET A BACKUP OF ALL THOSE MAILBOXES FOR SURE.

SO, SO I GUESS I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO ACCEPT A QUOTE FROM OTTA OCTAVIA TO MIGRATE OUR CURRENT EMAIL SERVICE FROM IMAP TO HOSTED EXCHANGE WITH THE FUNDING TO COME OUT OF RESERVES FOR CLAIMS SPECIAL PROJECT FOR 2024, AND THAT THEY'RE WAIVING THE, UH, MIGRATION SERVICE COST.

SIX, AIRPORT LEASE EVENT CENTER.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HELM TO THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION QUOTE FROM, UH, TEVA TO MIGRATE OUR CURRENT EMAIL SERVICE FROM IMAP TO HOSTED EXCHANGE AND THE MONEY TO COME FROM RESERVE FOR CLAIMS FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS 2024 AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT SHOW OF RIGHT HANDS FOR APPROVAL.

[6. Airport Lease - Event Center 2024]

APRIL WARDEN, CAN WE JUST MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THIS WITH ABSOLUTELY.

MM-HMM, , I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE, UM, LEASE RENEWAL 2024 LEASE RENEWAL FOR WITH THE CITY OF LIBERAL'S, LEASE NUMBER 1 44 0.00 AND APRIL INVESTIGATES OR WHATEVER IT TAKES SO WE CAN PURCHASE, START GETTING ALIGNED TO PURCHASE THIS.

AND I WILL TRY TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

AGAIN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE COMPLETED EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE ASKED US TO COMPLETE AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S JUST A PROCESS FOR THEM THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH, UM, THE FAA AND ATTORNEYS AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT, UM, I HAVE COMPLETED ALL THE PAPERWORK FOR THE PURCHASING OF THE AIRPORT RELEASES.

YOU GOT YOUR APPRAISAL YET? I HAVE NOT SAY.

NO, I DIDN'T SECOND IT.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

SO IF WE, IF WE APPROVE THIS FOR A A YEAR AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IN THREE MONTHS WE CAN, UH, WE CAN BUY, TURN AROUND AND BUY THE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF LEASING IT, WILL WE GET A REBATE ON, OR WILL THEY DO THE LEASE WHERE WE'LL REBATE THE LEASE? WE PAID THE LEASE BY THE MONTH, DON'T WE? DO WE PAY THE NO, IT'S ANNUALLY.

I'M SURE THEY WILL.

I DON'T YEAH, WE COULD NEGOTIATE IT.

KNOW WHY THEY WOULDN'T, WE COULD NEGOTIATE IT IN THAT CONTRACT.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF, BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD BUY IT IF, IF WE CAN GET THE GET IT BOUGHT AND, AND SO, OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HELM YES.

TO APPROVE THE 2024 LEASE NUMBER 1 44 FOR THE RENEWAL, FOR AGREEMENT FOR THE EVENT CENTER AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT SHOW OF RIGHT HANDS FOR APPROVAL.

I KNOW THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST, BUT IT REALLY IS GOING TO HELP US WITH THE NEW IMPLEMENTATION OF PROGRAMS. IT ALLOWS US TO PUT EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A COUNTY EMAIL ADDRESS.

FIVE COMM.

UM, UM, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE EMAIL UPGRADE.

[00:50:01]

UM, AND SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO NOW, TECHNOLOGY WISE, UM, IT WILL HELP.

THE ENCRYPTION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD AN OPTION OF BEFORE.

AND SO OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT CAN UTILIZE THAT, WE'RE HAVING TO USE A FAX MACHINE STILL, UM, FOR THAT.

AND THAT SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO, WE SAVE INTO FOLDERS NOW INTO DIFFERENT THINGS ON OUR EMAILS AND IT WAS JUST PUTTING US UP OVER THE LIMIT OF THE 10 GIGABYTES TOO.

SO IT REALLY IS GOING TO HELP OPERATIONS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

PLUS WHEN SHARE CALENDARS AND SHARED CALENDARS IS GONNA BE HUGE.

EXECUTIVE SESSION PERSONNEL.

SO THAT'LL BE GOOD.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN,

[7. Executive Session a. Legal]

I DO NEED ONE FOR, UM, PERSONNEL, UM, FOR, I THINK I COULD DO IT IN FIVE.

I MOVE THAT WE RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR DISCUSSION OF PERSONNEL MATTERS, NON-ELECTED PERSONNEL UNDER KSA 75 DASH 43 19 B ONE FOR 10 MINUTES TO INCLUDE COUNTY ATTORNEY, COMMISSIONERS AND ADMINISTRATION.

TO RECONVENE IN THE CHAMBERS AT 6 32.

THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE DISCUSSION WILL BE NON-ELECTED PERSONNEL.

SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION PERSONNEL AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HELM.

SEAT YOU.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ADMIN COMMENTS.

FIVE AND OH THE RESULT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

NO ACTION TAKEN.

NOW JOINING THE CONFERENCE.

[8. Administration Comments]

ON THE COURTHOUSE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT RENOVATION AS WELL AS THE COURTHOUSE ROOF.

SO COMMISSIONERS, I HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU GOT YOUR UPDATED BULLETED CALENDAR, UM, BY EMAIL THE OTHER DAY.

YOU DO HAVE, UM, SOME THINGS COMING UP.

UM, MAINLY WE'RE CLOSED THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, OF COURSE FOR THE, UM, THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 30TH.

UM, I DO HAVE A VIRTUAL MEETING IN CLAIMS REVIEW WITH TRAVELER'S INSURANCE.

WE'RE GONNA BE GOING OVER OUR TOP SIX CLAIMS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THOSE CLAIMS WILL BE ON THAT VIRTUAL MEETING WITH ME AS WELL.

UM, THEN FRIDAY, UM, DECEMBER 1ST IS OUR SEWARD COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION MEETING.

UM, WE HAVE INCLUDED FOR YOU THE NEW BYLAWS.

UM, THEY WERE IN YOUR PACKETS SOME TIME AGO.

THEY'VE CHANGED, UM, THAT TO WHERE WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE BOARD THAT MEETS MONTHLY AND THEN YOUR ENTIRE BOARD MEETS QUARTERLY.

UM, NOW TO HELP THE FLOW OF THE FUNCTIONS OF THAT, UM, CORPORATION BETTER.

I WILL SAY THE FIRST FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD, I, I FELT LIKE FLOWED A LOT BETTER HAVING AN EXECUTIVE BOARD.

AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE WHOLE BOARD, UM, QUARTERLY ON DECEMBER 4TH.

YOU DO HAVE A COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING DECEMBER 5TH THROUGH THE SEVENTH.

WE DO HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT WILL BE ATTENDING THE KANSAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ANNUAL ANNUAL CONFERENCE.

UM, I WILL BE OUT OF THE OFFICE DECEMBER 6TH THROUGH THE EIGHTH.

MY FATHER IS HAVING, UM, A MEDICAL, UM, PROCEDURE DONE AND I'M GONNA BE HELPING, UM, TAKE CARE OF HIM, UM, THOSE THREE DAYS.

UH, DECEMBER 9TH IS OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DINNER.

UM, IT'S AT THE AG BUILDING THIS YEAR.

THE DOORS OPEN AT FIVE 30 AND SUPPER WILL BE SERVED AT 6:00 PM ON DECEMBER 13TH.

YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR QUARTERLY STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION FROM NINE TO FOUR THAT DAY.

UM, DECEMBER 15TH IS THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH THAT'S BEING HOSTED BY PRESIDENT BENNETT AT SEWARD COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE LET ME KNOW THAT YOU PLAN TO ATTEND.

I DO NEED TO RSVP BY DECEMBER 8TH.

SO IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO ATTEND THAT, IF YOU COULD LET ME KNOW SO THAT I COULD GET YOU RSVP'D PLEASE.

UM, DECEMBER 18TH YOU'LL HAVE A REGULAR COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING, AND THEN ON THE 19TH OF DECEMBER, YOU DO HAVE A TOWN HALL, UM, THAT IS SCHEDULED AS WELL.

AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU BRIEFLY

[00:55:01]

I DO HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW, A VIRTUAL MEETING SCHEDULED, UH, WITH THE ARCHITECTS ON THAT.

THEY HAD A FEW ADDED, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, DRAINAGE, UM, DRAINAGE ON THE ROOF, UM, THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS.

AND I HAVE ADDRESSED THAT WITH THEM.

UM, I HAVE NOT BID OUT ANYTHING ON THE RELOCATION OF THE RODEO ARENA AT THIS POINT.

WE DO HAVE THE INFORMATION BACK FROM CALL VALLEY, BUT I DO NEED TO GET WITH CJ OR IF YOU WOULD PREFER FOR ME TO GO TO THE RODEO GROUP.

WE JUST NEED TO GET THE DRAWING SO THAT I CAN BID OUT THE PROJECT TO RELOCATE THAT.

UM, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER GROUP IN AUGUST THAT WOULD BE AFTER THE RODEO THAT'S WANTING TO UTILIZE THE GRANDSTANDS FOR ANOTHER EVENT.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ON IT TO MAKE SURE THE RENOVATIONS ARE DONE IN TIME FOR THE RODEO.

AND THEN YOU GUYS SHOULD SEE, I'M GONNA, YOUR BUDGET REPORTS.

DID YOU GUYS GET THE BUDGET REPORTS FROM MELINDA THAT YOU KNOW OF? OKAY.

AND I THOUGHT SHE WAS GONNA INCLUDE THOSE BEHIND THE MINUTES TOO, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

SO I DID TALK TO HER ABOUT THAT AGAIN.

UM, SHE'S, SHE'S DONE THEM EVERY MONTH.

UM, SHE WAS SENDING THOSE TO ME THINKING THAT I WAS REVIEWING THOSE, UM, AND THAT I WAS GONNA SEND THOSE OUT TO YOU.

UM, SO SHE DOES HAVE THOSE DONE AND IF THEY'RE NOT IN YOUR PACKET OR THEY WEREN'T EMAILED TO, THEN I WILL MAKE SURE, UM, THAT WE GET THAT DONE TOMORROW.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I NEEDED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS EVENING.

ITEM NUMBER NINE, COMMISSION COMMENTS.

[9. Commission Comments]

TAMMY, I WANTED TO THANK THE, UH, WASTE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR MEETING AND UM, ALL THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED TO THE LOCAL AREA.

TRASH GUYS FOR A BETTER CHOICE OF WORDS AND, UM, WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO FOR OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER HILL.

UH, WISH EVERYONE HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND CERTAINLY SAFE TRAVELS.

IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH.

I KNOW APRIL ATTENDED AND MR. WETSTEIN, COMMISSIONER WETTSTEIN, WE'VE BEEN ATTENDING SEVERAL MEETINGS.

I'VE BEEN ATTENDING SOME OF THE PUB WORKS TRAINING WITH N ON THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

I'VE ATTENDED PROBABLY FIVE OF THOSE JUST TO MAKE SURE TO SEE WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES.

ALSO ATTENDED THE CITY COMMISSION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

APRIL WAS THERE AND THEY'VE INVITED, THEY'LL BE INVITING SOME OF THE COMMISSION PROBABLY TO BE ON THEIR COMMITTEES.

THEY'RE INVITING A LOT OF THE PUBLIC TO GET INVOLVED.

UH, WE HAD ALSO ATTENDED THE KDOT LOCAL CONSULT MEETING AND I KNOW WE ATTENDED WHAT THREE MEETINGS THAT DAY.

FIRST TWO WERE PRETTY SPARSE, BUT THE LAST ONE THERE WAS A GOOD TURNOUT IN THE EVENING MEETING.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE EXPRESSWAY BEHIND GARRETTSVILLE.

AND THEN THE QUESTION IS THE INTERSECTION EITHER STOPLIGHT OR ROUNDABOUT.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T PUT IN YOUR COMMENTS TO CDOT, YOU NEED TO DO IT.

THAT'S YOUR CHANCE TO VOICE YOUR OPINION ON IT.

ALSO, WE ATTENDED THE CHAMBER MEETING IN DODGE CITY, THE LEGISLATIVE CHAMBER COMMERCE MEETING.

I THINK CJ, MYSELF AND APRIL, WE WERE ALL AT THAT AS WELL, ATTENDED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AS WELL.

UH, WHAT ELSE HAVE WE GOT? ROAD TO PROSPERITY.

WE MET WHAT DAY WAS THAT? THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.

IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK.

SO, AND THEN COMMUNICATIONS BOARD, I DID ATTEND THAT MEETING FOR COMMISSIONER ABBOTT.

THAT WAS A GOOD MEETING AND ALSO ATTENDED ONE FOR PERSEPHONE AT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND THEN WE HAD ELECTION CAMPUS.

SO IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH.

GONNA GET BUSIER.

SO I GUESS DECEMBER, JANUARY'S NOT GONNA LET UP EITHER.

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT.

CJ YOU GUYS WILL START YOUR TRAVELS TO TOPEKA.

TOPEKA IN JANUARY TO, YEP.

SO, YEP, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

JUST WANNA WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

DRIVE SAFELY IF YOU'RE ON THE ROAD

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AND ENJOY THANKSGIVING.

WE ARE A BLESSED COMMUNITY.

YES, WE ARE.

SAY STEPHANIE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I I JUST WANNA CONGRATULATE BLOCK AND THE TEAM ON THE INSPECTION DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB AND ALSO TO WISH, UM, EVERYONE A HAPPY AND SAFE THANKSGIVING.

I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE FINE.

AND I, I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EMAIL IT OUT TO THE COMMISSIONERS YET, SO, UH, WHAT PERSEPHONE WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE LANDFILL, THEY HAD A GREAT INSPECTION AGAIN.

UM, BUT I WANTED TO READ, UM, AN EA TEXT MESSAGE THAT I GOT AND I I WILL GET IT EMAILED OUT TO YOU TOO, CAN QUICKLY FIND IT.

SO LETICIA ARRADONDO, UM, RECEIVED, UM, AND HER DEPARTMENT AT SEWARD COUNTY, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECEIVED THE 2023 HOME VISITOR OF THE YEAR AWARD, UM, FOR, UH, THEIR HOME VISITING SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THAT, UM, THAT IS A GREAT AWARD AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE RECOGNIZE THEM FOR A JOB WELL DONE AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO DITTO EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS.

HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING, SAFE TRAVELS, AND DRIVE RESPONSIBLY AND GET THERE SAFE.

SO IS THERE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT TO ADJOURN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FULLER SHOW OF RIGHT HANDS FOR APPROVAL? YES.

AND LAST COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, IS THERE ANY SUGGESTION CARDS? OKAY.