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SCOTT, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN.ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE MEETING FROM ZOOM OR ARE YOU ASKING TAMMY TO, UM, RUN THE MEETING TONIGHT? I CAN RUN FROM ZOOM.
[ Regular Meeting 5:30 p.m. Call to Order Chair Scott Carr Pledge of Allegiance Invocation Jason Toombs, Liberal Ministerial Alliance Citizen Comments ]
OKAY, WE'LL CALL THE COMMISSION'S MEETING TO ORDER AND WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WITNESS STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR.
IS JASON THERE FOR THE INVOCATION? NO.
OR STEPHANIE, WOULD YOU LEAD US? YES.
WOULD YOU PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS ON BEHALF OF THE MINISTERIAL ALLIANCE AND, UM, OUR GATHERING HERE TODAY? UM, WE PRAY MY NAME IS PERSEPHONE FULLER AND WE ARE PRAYING, WE PRAY FOR THE GRACE OF GOD OVER OUR COMMUNITY.
WE PRAY FOR THE GRACE OF GOD OVER OUR FAMILIES.
WE ARE SO GRATEFUL AND SO THANKFUL, UM, OF THE INCIDENTS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THAT THERE WAS NO LOSS OF LIFE.
ALTHOUGH PROPERTY IS PERSONAL AND HAVE EMOTIONAL TIES TO IT, BUT THERE WAS NO LOSS OF LIFE.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS.
WE THANK YOU FOR OUR RURAL FIRE AND ALL THOSE THAT ASSISTED.
AND EVEN AS WE SENT FIREFIGHTERS AND, UM, MUTUAL AID TO STEVENS COUNTY, GOD, WE SAY THANK YOU.
WE LIFT UP THE PANHANDLE OF TEXAS, FATHER AND ALL OF THE RANCHERS AND ALL OF THE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THIS GREAT MASSIVE LOSS.
NOW, AS WE GATHER HERE TONIGHT AS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, MAY WE GOVERN AND RULE WISELY IN A WAY THAT HONORS, AND PLEASE, AS YOU, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
WE THANK YOU FOR OUR COUNTRY AND WE PRAY AND ASK YOU GOD, TO CONTINUE TO BLESS AMERICA.
IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS, WE PRAY.
IS THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS TONIGHT? SCOTT? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE COMING UP WITH CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
[1. Approve Agenda: Additions or Deletions]
OKAY.BEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A DISCUSSION OF DISASTER ASSISTANCE TO THE AGENDA, PLEASE.
DISASTER ASSISTANCE, DISASTER ASSISTANCE.
WE'LL MOVE THAT TO ITEM NUMBER 14 B THEN.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE ADDITIONAL ADDITION TO ITEM 14 B.
UH, WITH A DISCUSSION OF DISASTER ASSISTANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE ADDITION OF 14 B DISASTER ASSISTANCE.
SECOND A, THERE'S A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA AND I ADD ITEM 14 B, THE DISASTER ASSISTANCE, AND SHOW HER RIGHT HANDS FOR APPROVAL.
SO
PASSES FIVE AND OH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I'D MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AMENDED.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAM TO APPROVE THE AMENDED AGENDA.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WESTINE.
[3. New Employees]
OKAY.[2. Consent Agenda Minutes Feb. 20, 2024 Regular Meeting Payroll Mar. 4, 2024 Sage: $19,610.92 Reg.: $451,335.06 Vouchers 2023 - $143,591.28 2024 - $685,520.10 Abates and Escapes A=$8,523.52 E=$0.00 Crossing Permits 05-24 06-24 Requisitions None]
WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONSENT AGENDA.
THERE'S THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HELM TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FULLER.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, HELP DENTAL LIFE INSURANCE RENEWAL.
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NICK JOHNSTON AND BRIAN POWELL.RYAN AND NICK, CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? YEAH, I CAN.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL, UM, FOR LETTING US COME OUT AND, AND PRESENT TO YOU ONLINE.
UM, I BELIEVE I'VE MET MOST OF YOU, BUT MY NAME'S NICK JOHNSON.
UM, I'M JOINED TODAY WITH BRIAN POWELL, AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING YOUR MEDICAL, DENTAL, AND, UH, LIFE INSURANCE RENEWALS TODAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE US TO SHARE OUR SCREEN OR DO YOU HAVE ALL THE PRINTOUTS IN FRONT OF YOU? WHAT'S EASIEST FOR YOU ALL? WE HAVE IT.
THEY DO HAVE THEIR PRINTOUTS, UM, IN THEIR PACKETS.
UM, WE ARE HEARING FROM THE AUDIENCE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU WOULD SHARE THE SCREEN.
SO IT IS SAYING HOST DISABLED PARTICIPANT SCREEN.
ALL RIGHT, NICK, GIVE IT A TRY.
CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN? YEP.
WELL, THE FIRST PAGE HERE, WE HAVE A SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING WE'LL BE WALKING THROUGH TODAY.
UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET BLUE CROSS TO COME DOWN ON THE RENEWAL, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.
UM, THE, THE INITIAL RENEWAL DID COME IN AT A 4.5% INCREASE, WHICH IS ABOUT $206,000.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE YOUR ADMIN RATE DOWN BY ABOUT 11%.
IT'S ABOUT A $10 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH DISCOUNT, UM, WHICH WILL RESULT IN ABOUT $23,000 IN SAVINGS OVER THE INITIAL RENEWAL.
UM, AS A REMINDER, THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO DISCOUNT THE LAST YEAR'S RENEWAL AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING THAT, THAT ADMIN RATE DOWN, UH, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.
STOP-LOSS PREMIUMS, UH, HAVE AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 5.9%.
UM, THAT'S REALLY A PRETTY GOOD STOP-LOSS, UH, RENEWAL FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN THE MARKET THE LAST YEAR OR TWO.
UM, CLAIMS UTILIZATION IS SEEING ABOUT A 4.6% INCREASE WITH THE FINAL NEGOTIATED RENEWAL COMING IN AT A 4.0% INCREASE, OR ABOUT $182,000.
WE ALSO REQUESTED FROM BLUE CROSS A FEW SEPARATE OPTIONS AS WELL AS WE WENT OUT TO THE MARKET TO A DI A COUPLE DIFFERENT CARRIERS TO SEE IF WE COULD GET A COMPETITIVE OPTION ON THE TABLE.
WE WILL BE WALKING THROUGH THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE WALKING THROUGH OUR IMA PHARMACY PROGRAM, UM, BASED ON THE UTILIZATION WE'RE SEEING ACROSS OUR BOOK OF BUSINESSES COULD PROVIDE ABOUT 200,000 TO $300,000 IN SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY.
AND THEN WE WILL ALSO BE GOING OVER DENTAL, WHICH DID SEE A SLIGHT DECREASE AS WELL.
IT WENT FROM ABOUT 6.1% TO 5.2% WITH THE ADMIN REDUCTION.
AND THEN YOUR LIFE INSURANCE POLICIES ARE RECEIVING A ABOUT A 3.6% INCREASE THIS YEAR.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DID GO OUT TO THE MARKET, UM, TO LOOK OUTSIDE OF THE BLUE CROSS ARRANGEMENT.
WE RECEIVED THREE FIRM PROPOSALS FROM THE MARKET.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THOSE PROPOSALS, EVERY CARRIER PUT IN WHAT WE CALL A LASER, UM, REALLY DEEMING THEM AS UNCOMPETITIVE.
UM, DUE TO THIS AS A REMINDER, UM, YOU HAVE A $125,000 STOP-LOSS DEDUCTIBLE.
SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL.
WHEN THEY PUT THESE LASERS IN ON SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS, THEY INCREASE THAT CAP, UM, SO YOU WOULD HAVE MORE CLAIMS EXPOSURE.
SO, UM, REALLY ONCE WE GET INTO ALL THE, THE COMPLETE OPTIONS TOGETHER, THE BLUE CROSS OPTIONS WE HAVE ON THE TABLE ARE THE MOST COMPETITIVE.
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PAGE, WE HAVE A SUMMARY OF ALL THE MOST COMPETITIVE OPTIONS WE HAVE ON THE TABLE.UM, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, YOUR INITIAL RENEWAL WAS THE 4.5.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THAT DOWN TO A 4%.
UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT A SEPARATE OPTION WITH BLUE CROSS, WITH SOME PLAN DESIGN CHANGES THAT COULD BRING IT DOWN TO A 2%.
UM, AND THEN THE MOST COMPETITIVE OPTION WE GOT FROM THE MARKET WAS COMING IN AT A 5.5% INCREASE, WHICH WAS ABOVE THE BLUE CROSS RENEWAL.
UH, REALLY LOOKING AT THE TWO BLUE CROSS OPTIONS WE HAVE ON THE TABLE HERE.
UM, THE RENEWAL WITH NO PLAN DESIGN CHANGES IS COMING IN AT THE 4%.
UH, OPTION THREE WAS COMING IN AT ABOUT 2%, BUT BASED ON OUR INITIAL FEEDBACK AND THE, THE BENEFIT CHANGES WERE A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR, UM, THE SAVINGS ON THE TABLE.
SO I THINK WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION IT WOULD BE RENEWING AS IS, UH, WITH THE NEGOTIATED BLUE CROSS RENEWAL.
ONE OPTION WE DID WANT TO DISCUSS WAS OUR IMA PHARMACY PROGRAM.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH BLUE CROSS, UH, AS OF TODAY, AND AS A REMINDER, THIS PROGRAM IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY.
UM, YOU'RE NOT FORCING ANY INDIVIDUALS TO TAKE THESE MEDICATIONS, UM, BUT THERE IS AN INCENTIVE AND THAT WOULD BE GETTING THE MEDICATIONS AT A $0 COST TO THE MEMBER.
SO IT'S REALLY A BENEFIT TO EMPLOYEES AND IT'S A WAY THAT THE COUNTY CAN SAVE, UM, SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS ON THE TABLE.
UM, SINCE IT IS VOLUNTARY, UM, YOU COULD SEE, UM, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PARTICIPATION.
SO, UM, IF A HUNDRED PERCENT WERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, IT WOULD BE JUST UNDER $500,000 IN SAVINGS.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO GET A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE, UM, AS LIKELY WHAT WE SEE FROM A BOOK OF BUSINESS AVERAGE IS ABOUT 40 TO 60% PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS STILL ROUGHLY 200 TO $300,000.
UM, IN SAVINGS COMMISSIONERS, WE DID HAVE A DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING LAST WEEK, AND WE DID GO OVER, UM, THE INSURANCE RENEWAL AT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD LEVEL, UM, AND TO ASK THEM TO LET THEIR KNOW, LET THEIR EMPLOYEES KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
WE DID GO OVER THE IMA PHARMACY PROGRAM AS WELL AS WHEN NICK GETS TO IT LATER ON, CONTRIBUTION CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD POSSIBLY BE MAKING, UM, THIS EVENING.
UM, NICK, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE IMA PHARMACY PROGRAM, AND THAT WAS, UM, BECAUSE THE ELIGIBLE MEMBERS, UM, WITH THE ELIGIBLE DRUGS, WOULD THOSE BE MAILED TO THEM FROM YOUR PHARMACY? THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY WOULD BE MAILED STRAIGHT TO THEIR DOORSTEP, AND IF THE MEDICATIONS REQUIRE ANY TYPE OF TEMPERATURE REQUIREMENTS, THEY WILL BE MAILED IN THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO THEY'RE STAYING COMPLIANT WITH THAT AS WELL.
AND, AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, IF, IF THEY'RE HITTING THIS LIST THAT, UM, THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN USE OR, OR KIND OF INTERVENE AND SAVE MONEY, THEY'RE PROBABLY ALREADY USING A MAIL ORDER THROUGH, THROUGH BLUE CROSS, THROUGH THAT ACCREDO RELATIONSHIP ALREADY.
AND THEN SOME OF THEM INDICATED THAT THEY GET THOSE MEDICATIONS, UM, ON A 90 DAY MAIL ORDER.
UM, DO YOU GUYS DO IT 90 DAY OR IS IT MONTHLY OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, THAT THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD ABOUT, UM, THE PHARMACY PROGRAM.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE EMPLOYEES, WHEN WE'VE ASKED THEM AND PRODUCED WAYS FOR THEM TO HELP US SAVE MONEY IN ORDER TO KEEP THEIR INSURANCE BENEFITS, THEY'VE BEEN VERY OPEN TO DOING WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE EDUCATE THEM.
UM, LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS DID TREE HEALTH, UM, AND JUST CONSTANTLY, UM, EDUCATING PEOPLE OR NOT UTILIZING THE EMERGENCY ROOM FOR NON-EMERGENCY THINGS.
SO WHEN WE'VE ASKED THEM, THEY'VE DONE VERY WELL TO TRY TO HELP REDUCE THOSE COSTS TO KEEP THEIR INSURANCE PLAN AND YEAH.
AND, AND JUST EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT HASN'T HEARD ABOUT THIS IN
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THE PAST, UM, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THIS PROGRAM.UM, IT'S, IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL AND IT'S THE EXACT SAME DRUG, EXACT SAME DOSAGE AS THEY'RE GETTING TODAY.
WE'RE JUST ABLE TO GET IT AT A LOWER COST.
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THE PHARMACY PROGRAM? I'M NOT SEEING ANY.
DENTAL RENEWAL, UM, THIS ONE'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UH, WE HAVE YOUR INITIAL RENEWAL AT THE 6.1% INCREASE WITH THE NEGOTIATED ADMIN RATES THAT DROPPED IT DOWN TO A 5.2% INCREASE.
IT WAS JUST UNDER $2,000 IN SAVINGS AND THE LIFE INSURANCE RENEWAL.
UM, I DID INCLUDE THIS JUST TO SO SHOW THE INCREASE THAT ADVANCE, UM, HAS FOR YOUR 2024 RENEWAL, UH, IS ABOUT A 3.9% INCREASE OR ABOUT $1,300 A YEAR ON THE LIFE INSURANCE, AND THEN JUST UNDER 3% ON THE OPTIONAL LIFE.
UM, USUALLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE, UM, YEAR OVER YEAR, JUST GET A SLIGHT KIND OF INFLATION TYPE INCREASE.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY NOTHING OUT OF THE NORM ON OUR END.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL KIND OF PAUSE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UM, BEFORE WE GET, UH, MOVING ON TO THE CONTRIBUTIONS.
UM, IF NOT, I CAN GO AHEAD AND GET MOVING.
SO WE DID WANNA PROPOSE TWO DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTION ILLUSTRATIONS THIS YEAR.
UM, BOTH INCREASING THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN INCREASED, UM, IN MULTIPLE YEARS.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE SHOWING TWO ILLUSTRATIONS HERE.
THIS FIRST ONE, WE ARE SHOWING INCREASING THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION FROM $25 TO $50 AND THEN INCREASING THE FAMILY CONTRIBUTION FROM $250 TO $300.
UM, I ALSO PULLED SOME OF OUR BENCHMARKING JUST TO SEE WHAT SOME OF OUR OTHER KANSAS GOVERNMENT CLIENTS ARE DOING.
AND FROM A BENCHMARK PERSPECTIVE, THE EMPLOYEE ONLY RATE IS $69 AND THE FAMILY RATE IS 319.
SO WHILE THIS WOULD BE AN INCREASE, IT WOULD STILL PUT YOU VERY COMPETITIVE AND AND BELOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM A BENCHMARK PERSPECTIVE.
AND, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE A WAY, UM, FOR EMPLOYEES TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE INCREASE THIS YEAR.
AT THE BOTTOM, I JUST HAVE THE FINANCIALS BROKEN OUT TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH THE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE PICKING UP AND HOW MUCH THE COUNTY WOULD BE PICKING UP.
SO WHAT THIS PROPOSED CHANGE, THE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE PICKING UP 102,000 OUT OF HUNDRED $93,000, UM, INCREASE.
THE COUNTY WOULD BE PICKING UP THE 91,000 OUT OF THE 193.
THE SECOND OPTION WE ARE SHOWING TODAY IS MOVING THE EMPLOYEE ONLY RATE FROM $25 TO $30, AND THEN THE FAMILY RATE FROM $250 TO 300.
SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD STILL, UM, BE BELOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM A BENCHMARK PERSPECTIVE.
UM, BUT GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A SPLIT BETWEEN THE INCREASE THIS YEAR, UM, EMPLOYEES WOULD BE PICKING UP 81,000 OF THE $193,000 INCREASE AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD BE PICKING UP 111 IN THIS SCENARIO.
ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ON THESE TWO ILLUSTRATIONS YOU ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THERE? OKAY.
SO COMMISSIONERS, WITH THE INFORMATION BEFORE YOU, WE WOULD NEED, UM, TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN RENEW OUR CONTRACT.
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NEED TO GET THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, WE'LL HAVE TO DRAW UP THE CONTRACT BASED ON YOUR DECISIONS THIS EVENING SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT BACK AND GET THAT IMPLEMENTED, UM, BEFORE OUR PLAN YEAR STARTS OVER AGAIN ON MAY 1ST.WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS REALLY COMES TO THE, THE CONCLUSION OF OUR PRESENTATION.
UM, JUST WALKING THROUGH AGAIN, WHAT OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE, AND THAT WOULD BE TO RENEW AS IS WITH THE GRANDFATHERED, UH, PLAN DESIGN WITH BLUE CROSS.
UM, IT WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT THE IMA PHARMACY ADVOCATE PROGRAM AND EITHER SELECTING ILLUSTRATION ONE WITH THE CONTRIBUTIONS OR ILLUSTRATION TWO, UM, RENEWING DENTAL AND LIFE INSURANCE AS IS.
UM, AND THEN THE FINAL RENEWAL, UM, INCREASE WOULD BE ANYWHERE FROM $92,000 TO $112,000 TO THE COUNTY DEPENDING ON WHAT CONTRIBUTION ILLUSTRATION IS IS SELECTED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY A $20,000 INCREASE.
UM, HOW MUCH WOULD THE INCREASE BE WITH THE $50 ON THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND HOW MUCH WOULD THE INCREASE BE WITH THE $30? YEAH, SO, UM, CAN YOU, WITH THE $50 INCREASE TO EMPLOYEES, IT WOULD BE A $92,000 INCREASE TO THE COUNTY.
AND THIS DOES, THIS INCLUDES DENTAL AND THIS INCLUDES LIFE AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU WENT WITH THE $30 INCREASE TO EMPLOYEE ONLY, IT WOULD BE $112,000 INCREASE TO THE COUNTY.
AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
SO RIGHT NOW, EMPLOYEE ONLY PAYS $25 PER MONTH AND FAMILY PAYS $250 PER MONTH.
UM, SO YOU'RE EITHER INCREASING IT BY $5 IF YOU MOVE IT TO $30 FOR SINGLE OR BUY $25 IF YOU DO 50 AND THEN $50 A MONTH FOR FAMILY.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RENEW THE GRANDFATHER BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD PLAN WITH NO PLAN CHANGES, IMPLEMENT THE IMA PHARMACY ADVOCATE PROGRAM AND INCREASE THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS TO $50 FOR SINGLE COVERAGE AND 300 FOR FAMILY COVERAGE PER MONTH, WHICH INCLUDES DENTAL AND LIFE INSURANCE AS PRESENTED.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARR TO APPROVE THE GRANDFATHER BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD PLAN.
IMPLEMENT THE IMA PHARMACY ADVOCATE PROGRAM, INCREASE THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS TO $50 FOR SINGLE COVERAGE, AND 300 FOR FAMILY COVERAGE PER MONTH.
AND THAT INCLUDES DENTAL AND LIFE INSURANCE POLICY AS PROCEED.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT.
CAR PASSES FIVE AND A THANK YOU.
AND THEN RYAN OR NICK, I'M ASSUMING ONE OF YOU WILL GET WITH ME, UM, AND CONTACT BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD REGARDING THE CONTRACTS.
AND THEN, UM, I DID PROMISE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AT THE MEETING AND WHEN THEY TALKED TO THEIR STAFF THAT WE WOULD GET, UM, EDUCATE THEM ON THE PHARMACY PART.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UM, THAT YOU, YOU WOULD BE REACHING OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS THAT THAT APPLIES TO.
YEAH, WE'VE GOT LIKE A WHOLE COMMUNICATION CAMPAIGN THAT WE'LL PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE A KIND OF A ONE OFF CALL WITH YOU AND YOUR HR TEAM, UM, TO, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DISSEMINATING THE CORRECT INFORMATION, HOW WE CAN HELP AND HOW THAT PROCESS IS GONNA GO.
SO WE'LL WANT TO DEDICATE MAYBE AN HOUR TO THAT HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
I'LL WAIT FOR YOU GUYS TO REACH OUT TO ME.
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GUYS.OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA OF THE 2024 MOTOR GRADER BIDS WITH ROLLING PACKERS.
BOB WRIGHT, SEWARD COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO, UH, CHOOSE A GRADER, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR PURCHASING POLICY AND THE BIDS.
THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE OF $4,552 FROM MURPHY TO CATERPILLAR.
CATERPILLAR WAS YOUR LOWEST BIDDER AT $410,620 WHERE MURPHY WAS 415 172.
IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU CHOOSE THE LETTER FOR FOLEY CA $410,000 AND 620.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BID FOR A 2024, UH, CATERPILLAR MODEL ONE 40 DASH 13 L MOTOR GRADER FROM FOLEY EQUIPMENT.
AND THAT IS WITH PACKER ALSO, RIGHT? IT IS.
AND WHICH INCLUDES THE PACKER IN THE AMOUNT OF $410,620 AND 45 CENTS.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? YEAH, I CAN.
OKAY, SO COME ON AFTER TO THE, YEAH.
SO THAT PRICE THAT WE QUOTED WAS FOR A ROLLER PACKER PER YOUR BID SPEC SHEET.
IT CAME TO LIGHT AFTER THE BIDS WERE OPENED THAT WE NEEDED TO QUOTE A DIFFERENT PACKER, A DIFFERENT MODEL.
SO I BROUGHT AN AMENDED QUOTE TO INCLUDE THAT.
SO I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO, TO ACCEPT THAT $410,000 QUOTE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE CORRECT PACKER.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, I'M GONNA LET LEGAL COUNSEL ADDRESS THIS.
SO ARE BID SPECIFICATIONS THAT WENT OUT, UM, THEY'RE IN YOUR PACKET ON THE SECOND PAGE.
SECOND PAGE JUST SAYS ROLLING PACKER.
UH, IT DIDN'T GIVE ANY DESIGNATION AS TO ANY SIZE OR ANYTHING THAT WAS DIFFERENT.
UM, THEREFORE, BOTH, UH, OF THE, BOTH OF THE, UH, COMPANIES COMPLIED WITH THE SPECIFICATIONS BY GIVING, UM, GIVING A BID FOR A ROLLING PACKER.
ALBEIT THEY WERE DIFFERENT SIZES SINCE THEY WERE BOTH, UM, DIFFERENT SIZES.
UH, I TALKED TO, UM, I TALKED TO, UH, MR. WRIGHT.
MR. WRIGHT INDICATED THAT HE DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS GONNA BE MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, I THINK IT'S LIKE A 75 INCH AND A 90 SOMETHING INCH.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND SO BECAUSE THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE AND, UH, WITH THE BID SPECIFICATIONS, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN NOW RETROACTIVELY GO AND CHANGE THE BIDS.
AND SO SINCE THERE ISN'T MUCH DIFFERENCE, I THINK WE GO WITH THE LOWEST BID.
UM, AND, UH, WITH 410, UH, THOUSAND $620 AND 45 CENTS.
UM, AND, AND YOU TAKE THAT BID BECAUSE OUR PURCHASING POLICY SAYS THAT WE'LL GO WITH THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, NOW KIND OF CHANGE THE BIDDING PROCESS.
IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
I'M FINE WITH THAT AS LONG AS, UH, WE DON'T NEED THE BIGGER PACKER.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WHAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SPECIFICATIONS WENT OUT.
I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, THEN MURPHY WOULD WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON THEIRS.
AND I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TWO BIDS THAT CAME IN ON SPECIFICATIONS, ALBEIT THERE WASN'T SPECIFICITY AS TO THE RULE FACTOR.
WELL, IN LIGHT OF THAT, I GUESS MY MOTION STILL STANDS.
AND IF WE COULD JUST ADD THAT IT WILL COME FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE EQUIPMENT FUND, PLEASE.
IT WILL COME FROM THE ROAD AND BRIDGE EQUIPMENT FUND.
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SO IT MET SPECIFICATIONS, PARDON ME? IT MET THE SPECIFICATIONS IN THE BID.A, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WETSTEIN TO APPROVE THE FULLY EQUIPMENT 2024 BID FOR THE GRADER WITH THE PACKER FOR THE AMOUNT OF 410,600 2045 AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAM ROLL CALL FOR VOTE STEIN.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, RESOLUTION 2024 DASH ZERO THREE DECLARING EMERGENCY.
GREG STANDARD, UM, COMMISSIONERS AND MR. STANDARD, UM, IS NOT HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
HE DID HAVE A, UM, FUNERAL SERVICE, UM, TO ATTEND AS WELL, UM, BEFORE USE RESOLUTION 2024 DASH OH THREE DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.
UM, THIS RESOLUTION, UM, DECLARED A STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY REGARDING THE ANDREW LANE FIRE THAT WE DID EXPERIENCE ON FEBRUARY 26TH.
UM, THIS WAS A FIRE IN THE HANE AREA ON ANDREW LANE SPECIFICALLY.
UM, IT DID ENDANGER PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE WITHIN SEWARD COUNTY.
UM, COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN SCOTT CARR IN HIS CAPACITY AS THE CHAIRMAN DID SIGN FOR THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, THEN IT'S OUR NORMAL PROTOCOL TO BRING THIS BACK AT THE NEXT REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING FOR ALL COMMISSIONERS TO SIGN THE RESOLUTION OF DECLARATION.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING ON RESOLUTION 2024 DASH OH THREE, DECLARING A STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY IN SEWARD COUNTY, KANSAS, RESULTING IN POTENTIAL OR OCCURRING DISASTER.
MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE RESOLUTION 2024 DASH OH THREE DECLARING A STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY IN SEWARD COUNTY, KANSAS, RESULTING IN POTENTIAL OR OCCURRING DISASTER.
SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WEST STEIN TO APPROVE THE RES 2024 DASH THREE RESOLUTION DECLARING STATE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY IN SEWARD COUNTY, KANSAS, RESULTING IN POTENTIAL OCCURRING DISASTER.
AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FULLER ROLL CALL.
RI PASSES FIVE AND O ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WATER TANKS, RURAL FIRE, ANDREW BARKLEY, UM, COMMISSIONERS.
I'M GONNA TAG TEAM THIS WITH, UM, CHIEF BARKLEY.
UM, I ACTUALLY ASKED HIM TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
UM, AS WE PUT THIS ITEM BACK ON THE AGENDA, UM, THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR A WHILE NOW.
SO, UM, BEFORE THREE OF YOU WERE EVEN ON COMMISSION, SO ON APRIL 19TH, 2021, UM, FIRE CHIEF BARKLEY, UM, BROUGHT AN ITEM TO THE COMMISSION, UM, WHERE WE, OUR KAYLIN ETHANOL OFFERED TO DONATE 30,000 GALLON TANKS.
UM, THE TANKS WERE TO BE STRATEGICALLY PLACED IN RURAL AREAS OF SEWARD COUNTY AS A REMOTE WATER SOURCE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, RURAL AREAS OF SEWARD COUNTY DO NOT HAVE FIRE HYDRANT SYSTEMS. SO THE RURAL FIRE DEPARTMENT RELIES ON LOCAL WATER TENDERS, LOCAL FARMERS OR STOCK TANKS TO PROVIDE WATER DURING THOSE FIRES.
SOMETIMES THOSE WATER SUPPLIES CAN BECOME CHALLENGING.
UM, SO THIS WAS A SOLUTION, UM, TO PROVIDE A LARGE WATER SUPPLY FOR SOME OF THOSE AREAS.
AND ALSO A CONTRIBUTION, UM, TO OUR ISO RATING, WHICH CHIEF BARKLEY HAS TALKED TO YOU ON AT OTHER OCCASIONS.
UM, AT THAT TIME IN 2021, THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED.
THERE WERE FOUR LOCATIONS SELECTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHERE LANDOWNERS AGREED TO HAVE THOSE TANKS PLACED.
SURVEYS WERE THEN COMPLETED, LEGAL DOCUMENTS WERE DRAWN UP BY LEGAL COUNSEL.
UM, SIGNATURES WERE OBTAINED ON THOSE DOCUMENTS AND THE PROPER PAPERWORK WAS THEN FILED IN THE REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE.
THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS THEN WAS TO OBTAIN PRICING TO RELOCATE AND SET THOSE TANKS.
INITIALLY, WHEN THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, IT WAS THOUGHT THAT ROAD AND BRIDGE COULD POSSIBLY, UM, PREP THE SITE AND GET IT READY FOR THOSE TANKS TO BE SET.
AND THEN OUR KALIN ETHANOL HAD A VENDOR AVAILABLE, UM, TO THEM THAT WAS GOING TO HELP MOVE AND RELOCATE AND THEN SET THOSE TANKS.
UM, CONVERSATIONS HAVE SINCE TAKEN PLACE WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL AS REDDEN BRIDGE ON PREPARING THE PADS TO SET THOSE TANKS.
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UM, OBVIOUSLY PRICES HAVE CHANGED ALSO SINCE 2021 TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.UM, THE ESTIMATED COST OF THIS PROJECT IS NOW 40 TO $60,000 TO MOVE, RELOCATE, AND SET THE FOUR TANKS.
THOSE FOUR TANKS ARE 12 FEET BY 36 FEET INSULATED TANKS.
UM, THAT AMOUNT WOULD INCLUDE THE PREPARATION OF THE PAD TO SIT THE TANKS ON.
SO THIS ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS THIS EVENING FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AFTER MEETING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, ROAD BRIDGE AND ROLL FIRE TO DETERMINE IF THIS PROJECT IS COST PROHIBITIVE.
NOW, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA CONTINUE WITH, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DO WANNA ASK RODDEN BRIDGE, UM, TO DO, I, I THINK PLANNING AND ZONING AND RODDEN BRIDGE HAD A FEW CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
BUT IN TALKING WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER HELM, BECAUSE THIS IS SORT OF AN EXPERTISE IN HIS AREA, UM, HE HAD SOME SOLUTIONS, UM, POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO FOR BASES AS WELL TO SET THOSE TANKS ON.
UM, I JUST KIND OF NEED, UM, COMMISSION DIRECTION AS TO HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.
NOW, AS YOU KNOW, RULE FIRE IS ITS OWN TAXING DISTRICT.
UM, SO A MILL LEVY IS SET TO THEM WITH A BUDGET THAT THEY ARE ALLOCATED.
AND THE AMOUNT, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT THAT IS IN HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED, UM, IN THEIR BUDGET.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO DECIDE IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE THIS OUT OF RESERVES, IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PROJECT, IF YOU WANT US TO BID OUT THIS SERVICE, IF YOU KIND OF WANT TO VISIT WITH RODIN BRIDGE TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN DO.
UM, AND CERTAINLY CHIEF BARKLEY IS HERE TONIGHT AND UM, IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE OF HIM AS WELL.
I WANT TO HEAR COMMISSIONER HELM, WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE SINCE THIS IS KIND OF AN EXPERTISE AREA FOR YOU? RATHER THAN USING A, WHICH THEY PROPOSED A GRAVEL BRICK BASE, THERE'S NOW A, I'LL JUST CALL THE PLASTIC BASE, SET YOUR TANKS ON.
IT TAKES A MINUTE TO ASSEMBLE MATERIAL WISE MAY BE THE THING, BUT LABOR WISE, MUCH, MUCH CHEAPER.
AND IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER MATERIAL WISE TOO.
UM, COMMISSIONER HELM SHARED THE INFORMATION, UM, WITH MYSELF AND ALSO WITH, UH, MR. HAMLIN IN PLANNING AND ZONING.
HOW BIG, HOW BIG A PAD IS THIS GONNA TAKE AND, AND IS IT A LIKE A FOUR INCH PAD OR A SIX INCH PAD OR AN EIGHT INCH PAD OR WHAT COMMISSIONER HOME, I WOULD NEED YOUR EXPERTISE ON THAT.
WHEN I TALKED TO, UH, THE VENDOR THAT OUR KILLING ETHANOL WAS USING, UM, HE DIDN'T GIMME ANY DIMENSIONS ON THAT.
HE JUST KNEW THE TANK SIZE AND SAID THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD TAKE.
AND THEY WOULD BUILD IT OUT OF, I BELIEVE IT WAS CCHE ROAD DIRT, OKLAHOMA ROAD DIRT, UM, IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.
AND THE PAPERWORK WAS VERY SIMPLE.
SO, UM, I FORWARDED ON, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HELM KIND OF GOT INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS AND WOULD KNOW MORE ABOUT THE BASE DEPTH AND SO FORTH THAN I WOULD, THE PLASTIC BASE IS PRETTY MUCH SELF SUPPORT.
SO OTHER THAN PROVIDING A FLAT SURFACE, WHICH YOU'LL NEED GRAVEL AND MATERIAL FOR, TO PULL OFF THE COUNTY ROAD TO LOAD AND UNLOAD THE TRUCKS, OTHER THAN THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE MUCH, UH, MATERIAL INVOLVED.
OH, AND BOBBY BOBBY'S ALREADY LEFT, BUT JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU, SOME OF THE CONCERN THAT PLANNING AND ZONING AND REDDEN BRIDGE HAD WAS BECAUSE THE TANKS ARE VERY TALL, 36 FEET IS VERY LARGE AND THEY WOULD BE FILLED WITH WATER.
THEY WERE JUST CONCERNED IF REDDEN BRIDGE FOR SOME REASON DIDN'T GET THE GROUND COMPACTED CORRECTLY OR THE BASE SET LIKE IT NEEDED TO BE.
UM, THEY WEREN'T SURE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT TANK SHIFTING AT ALL.
SO, UM, IF, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER HELM IN HIS EXPERT OPINION FEELS LIKE THEY CAN DO, IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO DO IT, BUT THEY DID QUESTION THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE NOT DONE.
UM, AND THE TANK IS ONLY 12 FEET BY 36 FEET, SO THEY JUST WANTED AN OPINION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU FELT LIKE THAT COULD SHIFT EASILY IF THE GROUND WERE TO SHIFT A LITTLE BIT IF THEY DIDN'T GET IT GOOD AND COMPACTED OR, UM, AND THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO WHERE IF YOU HAD A COMPANY COME
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OUT AND DO IT, THAT KEN, LAST I KNEW OUR CONVERSATION, KENT WAS GONNA CHECK OUT THE SPECS TO MAKE SURE OF COMPACTION AND I THINK FULL COMPACTION CORRECT.UM, AND I KNOW THAT HE WORKED THAT ON ON FRIDAY AND I APOLOGIZE, I WAS OUT ILL ON FRIDAY.
UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, HE CHECKED INTO THAT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S HOW MUCH FURTHER DO YOU WANT US TO GO IN THIS AND DO WE WANNA BID THIS OUT OR DO WE WANNA ASK RED BRIDGE TO DO IT? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS COST PROHIBITIVE? I THINK, UM, ONCE A COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, IT'S LIFE SAVING FOR FOR SURE TO HAVE THESE TANKS OUT IN THE DESIGNATED AREAS.
AND IF WE COULD BID IT OUT, UM, WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE AND HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST NOT LIKE MOVING A BOAT OR SOMETHING.
IT'S GONNA, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE MASSIVE AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE FULL OF WATER.
SO IF WE CAN BID IT OUT OR IF WE CAN, UM, HAVE A FURTHER, A FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH ROAD AND BRIDGE AND GET SOME FOLKS LIKE AS THE HOME THAT CAN COME TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
UM, AND YOU GOTTA ALSO THINK IN TERMS OF LIABILITY, IF YOU GO WITH A COMPANY, THEY HAVE THE LIABILITY THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE.
NOT THAT THE, THE COUNTY WOULD NOT HAVE IT, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN GET IT DONE, MOVE IT, DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, SET IT, COMPOUND IT, COMPACT IT, STAKE IT IN THE GROUND LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT'S JUST ME.
SO MY QUESTION IS JUST TO MAKE SURE YOUR CAR, YOU KNOW, WE BUILD ROADS, DIRT ROADS EVERY DAY.
SURELY WE CAN BUILD
THE THE TANKS ARE GETTING SET OUT NOT NEAR SOMEBODY'S HOUSE OR SOMEBODY'S BARN.
THEY'RE GETTING SET OUT IN AN OPEN AREA KIND OF THAT'S CORRECT.
ON THE CORNER, THAT'S YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD BE CLOSE TO ANY STRUCTURES WOULD BE THE ONE WE'D BE SITTING UP NEXT TO THE CIMARRON FIRE HALL OR THE FIRE BARN.
SO I AGREE, UM, WITH COMMISSIONER CARR, THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE SHOULD GO OUT AND PAY SOMEONE ELSE WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN ROAD AND BRIDGE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO THOROUGHLY WORK ON OUR ROADS CORRECTLY.
AND UH, IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE AROUND ANYBODY'S PROPERTY OR BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING, I DON'T SEE WHY THE LIABILITY IS GONNA BE THAT MUCH OF AN ISSUE.
AND I THINK AS LONG AS WE CAN PROVIDE PROPER SPECIFICATIONS TO THEM AS TO HOW BIG THE PAD SHOULD BE, UM, AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THAT, THEN THAT, I'M SORRY, THAT REDUCES THE COST OF THAT MOVING EXPENSE PROBABLY TO AROUND.
SO FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BEING SPECIFIC ON NUMBERS.
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN CASE WE GO TO BID OR THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GIVE.
UM, WITH THE TANK MOVEMENT, OUR KAYLIN ETHANOL HAS INDICATED TO ME THEY ARE AGAIN WILLING TO SPLIT THAT 50 50 WITH US.
BUT ORIGINALLY THE TANK MOVEMENT AND SETTING WAS SPLIT 50 50 CURRENTLY WITH THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR.
SO WE'RE BACK DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE WE CAN MANAGE, UM, POSSIBLY FROM RURAL FIRE RESERVE FOR EQUIPMENT.
ARE THE, ARE THE TANKS IN GOOD CONDITION? YEAH, SO THEY'RE, THEY, THEY LOOK, WHY ARE THEY GETTING RID OF IT? THEY'RE NO LONGER USING THEM.
UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY WERE NO LONGER USING THEM BECAUSE OF A RECALL THAT WAS DONE WITH THE CHEMICALS THAT THEY WERE USING.
AND SO THEY'RE STILL STANDING IN PLACE AT THE FACILITY AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MOVED.
THEY'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING ON US.
UM, WITH TALKS WITH RICHARD, UM, WITH THE WATER, THERE'S, HE DIDN'T BELIEVE TO SEE ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH WHAT THE RECALL WAS ABOUT.
UM, AND I'M, NO, FORGIVE ME 'CAUSE I'M NO EXPERT IN ETHANOL OR WHAT THEY DO OUT THERE.
UM, SO THEY WERE, THEIR BOARD HAD DECIDED AT THAT TIME, FOUR YEARS AGO THAT THEY WOULD RATHER DONATE THEM THAN SCRAP THEM.
'CAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE 30 THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF WATER IN A COUPLE LOCATIONS.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
I THINK IT GOT PAST ME, I TALKED TO UH, COMMISSIONER ABBOTT AND COMMISSIONER FULLER
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AT OUR LAST LIAISON MEETING AND I WAS LIKE, I'M, I'M AT A POINT WHERE IT'S BEYOND MY CONTROL.WE NEED TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS FOR DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE US TO DO.
SO WHAT I HEAR YOU SAY HERE, YOU SAY CHIEF BARKLEY IS THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SPLIT THIS COST FOR TRANS, POSSIBLY FOR TRANSPORTATION.
UH, THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE THE PADS WERE INCLUDED OR TALKED ABOUT, THEY WERE WILLING TO SPLIT THE COST OF TRANSPORTING THE TANKS FROM THE ETHANOL PLANT AND SETTING THEM FOR US, MOVING 'EM OUT TO THE LOCATION AND LIFTING 'EM UP AND SETTING THEM UP.
THEY WERE WILLING TO SPLIT THAT WITH US.
SO WHAT IF WE TABLED IT TILL THE NEXT MEETING AND YOU GOT THOSE COSTS? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
'CAUSE THEY CAN HELP US PAY FOR THIS.
I, I'M, THAT'S JUST, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN GET IT DONE AND MOVE IT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY THE COST.
I, I THINK I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ABBOTT.
SO, SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE TO YOU, SO I TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH, DO YOU WANT TO KNOW IF THEY'RE WILLING, AS THE QUESTION WAS ASKED TO THEM, ARE THEY WILLING TO SPLIT THE ENTIRE PROJECT COST WITH US, WITH INCLUDING PADS AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE? CORRECT.
AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO, FOR YOU TO COME UP WITH WHAT THE SPEC SPECIFICATIONS WOULD BE FOR THE PAD IF YOU RAN IT CONCRETE.
JUST TO COMPARE, JUST SO WE WOULD REALLY HAVE A GOOD COMPARISON ON PRICEWISE TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, COMPARISON OF CONCRETE WOULD COST COMPARED TO THE STUFF STEVE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THE DONATION OF INSULATED 30,000 GALLON TANKS TO BE USED AS A REMOTE WATER SOURCE FOR THE RURAL FIRE DEPARTMENT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
I I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TALK TO UM, KEVIN WITH KBK.
WHICH IS A LIBERAL KANSAS S COUNTY BASED BUSINESS AND THEY COULD POSSIBLY, BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCAL MOVE THE TANKS.
JUST UTILIZE ALL, UTILIZE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES THAT WE CAN AND I'M ALL ABOUT IF THEY CAN DO 50 50, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME TOO.
AND COURT COMMISSIONER WESTSIDE, SIR, I WILL GET ALL THAT INFORMATION BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.
I'LL MAKE A SECOND TO COMMISSIONER ABBOTT'S MOTION TO TABLE IT TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
HE DID DO WHAT SCOTT? SECOND COMMISSIONER ABBOTT'S.
RECOMMENDATION WHICH NEXT COMMISSION MEETING? MARCH 18.
WE'RE CALLING FOR ROLL CALL NOW.
FULLER AYE CLERK? AYE I BASIS.
ITEM NUMBER 8 20 23 ENCUMBRANCE REQUEST.
I'M LINDA JOHNSON WITH SEWARD COUNTY ACTIVITY CENTER AND UM, IN MY BUDGET OF 2023, I HAD $47,054 AND 90 CENTS LEFT OVER.
AND THE YEAR BEFORE I HAD BEEN A LITTLE OFF AND SO I WAS REAL TIGHT WITH MY BUDGET THIS YEAR AND SO THERE WAS SOME PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE AND I BELIEVE WHEN YOU GUYS COME OUT AND FE ALL THE PROPERTIES AND STUFF OF THE COUNTY, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT I HAVE SHOWN YOU HERE THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
AND SO THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING, LIKE OUR PAINT, UM, FOR THE, UH, THE UH, OLD SHOP AND THE OLD ROAD AND BRIDGE, UM, WE HAVE GOT, UH, PRICING OF THAT.
AND THEN ON THE OLD RODENT BRIDGE, IF YOU NOTICE THAT THERE'S RUST ON THE BOTTOM ALL THE WAY AROUND THE ONE PART OF IT AND THAT WE HAVE GOT PRICING OF METAL TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AND SECURE IT TO THE FRAME OF THE CONCRETE.
AND UH, THEN WE'LL PAINT THAT TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER.
AND THEN, UH, WE HAD, UH, BACK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS, WE BOUGHT SOME TIN TO RESKIN, THE AG BUILDING, UH, THE WEST END.
AND UH, WHEN WE GOT READY TO DO THE PROJECT HERE A WHILE BACK, WE JUST, THEY DID NOT SELL US THE CLOSURES AT THE TOP.
AND SO WE GOT THE PRICE OF THAT AND THEN FROM THAT FREEZING THAT'S, UM, THAT'S CALLED THE HEAD TRIM.
AND THEN, UM, WE GOT ALL THIS PUT TOGETHER AND THEN MY GUYS COME IN AND TOLD ME THAT WE DID NEED TIRES FOR THE DODGE RAM THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND IT COME TO
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8,000 278 30 OH AND WE PLUS LANDSCAPE ROCK TO KEEP THE MUD SO BAD IN FRONT OF THE AG BUILDING.SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
I MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE $8,231 AND 30 CENTS FOR MATERIALS FROM THE ENCUMBERED FUNDS TO COME FROM THE MAINTENANCE ACCOUNT FUND.
I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS REAL QUICK, LINDA.
HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET FOR MAINTENANCE FROM 2023? MM I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT WAS.
I JUST KNOW THE OVERALL BUDGET THAT WE HAD THEN ON THE TIRES.
DID WE LOOK AT M AND M ALSO? DO WHAT SCOTT DID WE JUST GO TO ONE PLACE FOR TIRE BIDS? WE JUST GOT A QUOTE IS WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WE'LL, WHAT WE'LL DO IS TAKE OUT BIDS ON THAT, SCOTT.
UM, HOW THAT WORKS ENCUMBRANCE IS THEY JUST GIVE, THEY GET A QUOTE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST.
SO THEY WOULD KNOW HOW MUCH TO ENCUMBER, BUT THEN IT HAS TO GO OUT FOR BID.
I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU HAD IN THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THE BUDGET FOR MAINTENANCE OR, NO, I REALLY DIDN'T PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO THAT SCOTT WHEN WE DID THAT.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, WENT FROM A TOTAL OF WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE BUDGET AND THEN, UH, 'CAUSE USUALLY WHEN I GET IT BACK, THEY DON'T GIVE THE LINE ITEM OF HOW MUCH THAT I WILL RECEIVE FOR EACH, EACH LINE ITEM THAT I HAVE.
COMMISSIONER ABBOTT MADE A MOTION TO ENCUMBER 8,000 278 30 FOR MATERIAL TO FINISH PROJECTS AT THE EVENT CENTER SHOP.
THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL, WEINE.
A ED FOR LPCR TWO FOR COUNTY BUILDINGS.
UM, I'M HERE WITH THE A ED PROPOSAL.
UH, JUST KIND OF A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS, UM, IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WE HAVE EMPHASIZED SAFETY.
UH, STARTED THE SAFETY COMMITTEE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS IN THAT WAS, UH, A PLAN TO GET, UH, A GOOD PORTION OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES TRAINED IN CPR FIRST AID AND A ED OF WHICH WE ACCOMPLISHED HALF, UH, OF THE EMPLOYEES LAST YEAR AND WE'LL GET THE OTHER HALF THIS YEAR.
UH, THEY WERE, UH, EMPLOYEES COVERING EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY, SO WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT CLASSES.
SO, UH, WE'RE NOW READY TO MOVE ON TO GET SOME A ED PLACED IN THESE BUILDINGS.
UH, JUST A LITTLE HISTORY WE HAVE, UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN A ED AT BOTH ROAD AND BRIDGE AND LANDFILL, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN A ED LOCATED AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UM, THESE HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, AND, UH, THE BUILDINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS THE, SO, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, THE COURTHOUSE AND THE ACTIVITY CENTER AND THE UH, UH, AG BUILDING.
UM, THE PROPOSAL WAS, UH, I WENT OUT AND GOT SOME, UH, ESTIMATIONS FROM, UH, ONE VENDOR AND GREG HELPED ME WITH A COUPLE OTHER VENDORS ON, UH, BASICALLY CHOOSING A ED.
UH, THE A ED THAT, UH, BASICALLY WE CHOSE WAS A PHYSIO CONTROL.
UH, IT'S CALLED THE PHYSIO CONTROL C TWO.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH, UH, THE, THE ONE VENDOR, HE EXPLAINED THAT, UH, WITH THIS TYPE OF AN A ED, WE COULD USE A, UH, DIFFERENT TYPE OF MOUNTING FOR IT THAT DID NOT HAVE TO BE RECESSED INTO YOUR WALL TO MEET A DA YOU, YOU CAN HANG THE WALL, FLUSH ON THE WALL AND PUT THE A ED IN THERE WITH AN ALARM ON THE BOX.
UH, A LOT OF THE A D CASES ARE A LOT WIDER AND THEY'RE WIDER BECAUSE THE AEDS ARE WIDER.
IT'S ABOUT THIS BIG, ABOUT THIS BIG.
UM, WE GOT, UH, THE THREE QUOTES COME IN AT 17,576 FOR EIGHT UNITS.
UH, THE OTHER TWO BIDS WERE IN THE 18,000.
THE NICE THING ABOUT THE FIRST RESPONDER OF KANSAS, A ED QUOTE WAS IT CAME WITH THE
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GENTLEMAN'S QUOTED THE, QUOTED THE MONITOR, QUOTED THE CASES, QUOTED ALL THE SIGNAGE, AND WHEN HE GETS 'EM IN, HE WILL BRING THEM OUT.HE WILL TELL US WHERE THEY NEED TO GO TO MEET A DA SO GREG CAN GET 'EM MOUNTED.
HE WILL TELL US WHERE THE SIGNS NEED TO GO, AND THEN HE WILL ALSO STOP WITH EACH AREA THAT HE'S PLACING THOSE A ED WITH AND GO OVER IT WITH THE EMPLOYEES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT SPECIFIC UNIT.
SO, UH, YOU'LL BASICALLY GET SOME IN SERVICING DONE AT THAT TIME.
UH, AND THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THAT QUOTE.
I DID MENTION DOWN BELOW THAT, UH, THE, WE COULD DO THIS ON A PHASE PROJECT, UM, AFTER THINKING ABOUT IT AND LOOKING BACK AT THE, AT THE QUOTE, WE HAVE TO STAY WITHIN SIX.
WE HAVE TO BUY SIX TO EIGHT TO MEET THE BID QUOTE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
SO WE HAD TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO BUY LESS THAN EIGHT, WE CAN'T GO BELOW SIX.
I PUT FOUR AND FOUR, BUT, UM, BUT THE EIGHT I WOULD RECOMMEND WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE FACING REPLACING PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO OF THE OTHER AEDS IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS BECAUSE IT IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED.
WE CAN STILL GET PARTS, STILL GET PADS FOR IT, IT'S STILL WORKING FINE, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE HAVING TO PHASE THOSE OUT.
THEY'RE THE G THREES AND THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE G FIVES OUT, WHICH IS TWO GENERATIONS NEWER AND THAT'S WHAT'S AT THE ROAD BRIDGE IN THE LANDFILL GETTING QUESTIONS OF US.
DO WE HAVE TO BID THIS OUT OR WE GET YEAH, DUE TO THE INDIVIDUAL PRICE OF THE A ED UNITS, HE JUST HAS TO GET QUOTES, WHICH HE'S ALREADY DONE.
INDIVIDUALLY THERE WERE ABOUT 20, RIGHT? YEAH.
DOES THE STATE, UM, CONTRACT, DO THEY HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THIS? NOT THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET ANY BETTER PRICING THAN THIS.
UM, THEY'RE, YOU CAN BUY LESS EXPENSIVE AEDS, RIGHT? UH, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE LIKE YEAR IN MODELS AND THEN IN TWO YEARS YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN AND YOU'D, YOU'D SAVE PROBABLY MAYBE 500 BUCKS ON 'EM AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE REPLACING 'EM.
THIS IS FIRST GENERATION OR SECOND GENERATION ON A PHYSIO CONTROL.
THE OTHER NICE THING I DIDN'T MENTION IS IT'S INTERCHANGEABLE.
THESE PADS WILL WORK UNIVERSALLY WITH ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT.
SO WHEN, IF SOMEBODY IS USING THIS DEVICE, ALLS WE DO IS UNPLUG THE PADS THAT ARE THERE, PLUG THEM INTO OUR MONITORS AND IT WORKS.
'CAUSE WE USE PHYSIO CONTROL TOO.
THEY'RE NOT AEDS, THEY'RE MONITORS, BUT THEY'RE INTERCHANGEABLE.
UM, BUT, UH, THERE, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY BID SPECS FOR THE STATE THAT WOULD GET US ANY BETTER PRICING THAN THIS RIGHT HERE.
UM, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF EIGHT, UM, UNITS FROM FIRST RESPONDER KANSAS.
HAVE WE, HAVE WE LOOKED AT ANY, UH, GRANTS FOR THESE POSSIBLY OR GRANTS? UM, NO, I DIDN'T REACH OUT FOR, FOR GRANTS.
UM, AS FAR AS THAT, ALL OF OUR GRANTS, I MEAN, I'VE KIND OF GRANTED MYSELF INTO THE WHOLE, I MEAN WE COULD OH, I KNOW, I KNOW.
UM, WE COULD PROBABLY, I'M TRYING TO THINK BEST WAY TO APPROACH THAT.
UM, IF WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN DO THE, THE OTHER TWO REPLACEMENTS MAYBE THROUGH A GRANT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
I I WAS JUST WONDERING, POSSIBLY LOOK AT A GRANT.
I, I PERSONALLY DID NOT REACH OUT TO OUR GRANT WRITER REGARDING THIS.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD WITH THEM OR NOT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COULD WE REACH OUT TO LOOK AT A GRANT? I MEAN, JUST LOOK AND IF NOT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM BY THESE GUYS EITHER.
YOU WANT TO GO? WELL, YEAH, YOU DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, BUT AS FAR AS REACHING OUT TO, UM, I DO HAVE A MONTHLY CALL WITH TFG ON THE 11TH, BUT I MEAN I COULD REACH OUT TO THEM BEFORE THAT AS WELL.
WHO MADE THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER
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HILL? YES.TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF EIGHT UNITS FROM FIRST RESPONDERS OF KANSAS FOR THE AMOUNT OF 17,576 AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABBOTT.
FULLER, FULLER, FULLER, I'M SORRY.
PASSES FIVE AND OH, THANK YOU JOHNNY.
ITEM NUMBER 10, SOFTWARE PHONE APPLICATION SCHEDULING AND RESOURCING.
JOHNNY STEIN, YOU GET TO HEAR FROM ME AGAIN, SORRY.
UM, THIS, UM, THIS SOFTWARE APPLICATION THAT I'M HERE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, WE'VE BEEN, UH, THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING THAT'S UH, KIND OF UNIQUE.
UH, THIS WAS BUILT FROM THE STAFF UP AS OPPOSED TO THE ADMINISTRATION DOWN.
UM, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A LOT OF ISSUES WITH SCHEDULING DUE TO ALL THE OPENINGS WE HAVE.
UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR HAS TO BE COVERED BY AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE.
AND YOU'RE DOWN THREE STAFF MEMBERS RIGHT NOW AND YOU GOT ONE RETIRING IN A MONTH.
THAT'S FOUR STAFF MEMBERS THAT LEAVES A LOT OF OPENINGS IN A, IN A APPLICATION.
UM, RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY WE DO IT ON A CALENDAR.
WELL, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WE'RE GETTING PART-TIME AND THE HELP THAT WE CAN UTILIZE DON'T LIVE IN LIBERAL KANSAS.
THEY HAPPEN TO WORK FULL-TIME SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY COME IN AND HELP US OUT ON THEIR OFF DAYS TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY.
SO, UH, WE'VE RE UH, THE CREWS REACHED OUT TO SOME OF THE AREA, UM, EMS AGENCIES AND A LOT OF 'EM HAVE SWITCHED TO THIS PARTICULAR SOFTWARE BECAUSE IT WORKS PERFECTLY FOR 24 HOUR SHIFTS.
IT WORKS GREAT FOR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, IT WORKS GREAT FOR EMS BECAUSE IT'S BASED OFF 24 HOURS.
WHAT IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO IS YOU PUT YOUR, YOUR STAFFING NEEDS THERE AND ANY CHANGES HAPPEN.
IT'S SENT TO EVERYBODY ON THEIR PHONE.
THEY'VE GOT A APPLICATION THERE THAT IT JUST UPDATES THE PHONE.
IF YOU'RE NEEDING COVERAGE FOR A CALL, IF YOU'RE NEEDING COVERAGE FOR SAY AN EVENT LIKE WE'RE DOING A FOOTBALL STANDBY OR RODEO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU PUT IT ON THERE AND THEY SCHEDULE FOR IT AND YOU KNOW IT'S COVERED.
AND, UM, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S IRREPLACEABLE WHEN YOU CAN KEEP IT PERPETUALLY UP TO DATE.
UH, THE ONE ON THE WALL THEY MIGHT CALL YOU WRITE IT IN THERE, BUT IF YOU DIDN'T HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT THERE, IT DOESN'T UPDATE ANYBODY ELSE OTHER THAN THAT WALL.
AND, UH, IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO DO.
UM, THE COST OF THIS IS, UH, $3,278 FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN IT'S 26 88 PER YEAR.
I DO HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
I WILL TAKE IT OUT OF MY EQUIPMENT.
UM, THE ONE THING I DO NEED TO LET YOU KNOW IS I'M LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE WITH THIS PURCHASE, BUT I'LL NEED TO WORK WITH LEGAL COUNSEL BECAUSE I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THE INITIAL TERM ON THIS IS 36 MONTHS.
WE CAN'T DO A 36 MONTH AGREEMENT.
WE HAVE TO DO A 12 MONTH AGREEMENT.
SO I'VE GOTTA CONTACT THESE PEOPLE TOMORROW TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
I MADE IT CLEAR ON THE PHONE, BUT I DIDN'T PAY ANY ATTENTION.
I THOUGHT IT WAS 36 MONTHS ON THE LOCKING THE PRICE IN, BUT IT WAS A 12 MONTH AGREEMENT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS SAYS.
SO I NEED TO CONTACT THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE PRICE.
IF IT CHANGES THE PRICE, I'LL KILL IT.
WE'LL BRING IT, BRING IT BACK WITH, WITH THE UPDATE.
BUT UH, UH, WE JUST NEED TO REACH OUT ON THAT CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T VIOLATE THE STATE STATUTES.
HEY JOHNNY, THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARR, UHHUH
I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO AN UPGRADED OUTLOOK NOW THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHERE WE CAN SHARE CALENDARS.
COULD THAT BE USED IN ANY SHAPE, FORM, OR FASHION? UM, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BASICALLY CREATE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THIS ONE.
YOU'RE SHARING, YOU'RE SHARING, UH, DEPARTMENTAL INFORMATION.
UH, YOU CAN SHARE, UM, CHECK SHEETS FOR TRUCKS.
YOU CAN SHARE, UH, UH, PROTOCOLS.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO ON THIS SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST SCHEDULING.
AND WE'RE TALKING SCHEDULING, SO THAT'S WHY I KNOW.
IT'S, IT, IT'S MAINLY FOR THE SCHEDULING TO KEEP EVERYBODY PERPETUALLY UP TO DATE.
BUT SAY FOR INSTANCE, A MEMO OR SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO SEND OUT OR HRS GOT SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IT IN THIS PROGRAM AND SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY ALL AT ONCE AND IT'S DONE AND IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER USER FRIENDLY FOR US WITH DISTANT EMPLOYEES.
IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER TO WHERE WE CAN KEEP THEM INFORMED AND, AND UH, KEEP 'EM INVOLVED BECAUSE THE MORE THEY WORK THE LESS WE PAY IN OVERTIME.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO I I I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
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THIS SOFTWARE PACKAGE IS FOR SEWARD COUNTY MS IT'S A DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC.SO, AND THEN YOU SAID THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME FROM SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND THAT THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE $2,700 EVERY YEAR? YES.
FOR HOW MANY EMPLOYEES? UH, IT'S PUT IN 28.
UH, I'VE GOT 28 LICENSES WITH THIS.
SO, UH, I'VE GOT 20, LET'S SEE, 26 PO OR 2026 POSITIONS RIGHT NOW.
AND I'VE GOT FOUR OPENINGS FOR, FOR FULL-TIME AND THEN 26 POSITIONS WITH A FEW OPENING ON PART-TIME.
SO IT'S GONNA ALLOW FOR ALL THE PART-TIME AND FULL-TIME TO BE ON THAT.
THESE, THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN, BUT SOME OF OUR PEOPLE DON'T LIVE HERE THAT WORK HERE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE FROM STEVENS COUNTY THAT ARE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES HERE FOR US.
THEY COME WORK THE SHIFTS AND THEY GO BACK HOME AND THEY COVER THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
SCOTT CITY GUYMAN AND ALL OF THEM WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS, THEY WILL BE ALL ACCESSING THIS, WELL ACTUALLY THEY'LL GET A, GET A MESSAGE.
YOU CAN SEND IT OUT IN TEXT FORMAT.
YOU CAN SEND IT OUT AND UM, UM, THE, UM, TEXT, EMAIL AND DIRECTLY INTO THE PROGRAM AND IT'LL GIVE 'EM ALERTS.
HAS CLAYTON LOOKED AT THIS? WHAT I YEAH, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND UH, YOU KNOW THE, A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS ACTUALLY ARE DERIVED FROM, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT EMAIL PROGRAM THAT, UH, SCOTT WAS ASKING ABOUT FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UH, SOFTWARE.
THIS ONE'S GEARED FOR EMS AND THE COMPANY.
AND I BELIEVE THE COMPANY, THE ADDRESS SOUNDS REAL FAMILIAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR, DO YOU KNOW IF ICP IS THE COMPANY WE GET OUR CLOCK IN? NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST ASKING CLAYTON.
UM, 'CAUSE THIS IS THROUGH TIME CLOCK PLUS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF EXECUT TIME, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM, IF THEY HAD A SOFTWARE THAT WOULD DO THIS.
BUT CLAYTON WAS NOT AWARE OF ONE THROUGH EXCU TIME.
IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SPECIFIC FOR THIS ONE ON ON.
BUT THE, THE NAME AT THE TOP AND THE ADDRESS, 'CAUSE IT'S ON TIME, CLOCK DRIVE,
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CLAYTON, IS THERE SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO THIS THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF? ANYTHING.
ANY MOTIONS? I THINK HE WANTS TO GO BACK AND CHECK THE PRICING.
IS THAT? WELL, IF YOU WANT TO, BECAUSE IF THE PRICING GOES UP, I WILL BRING IT BACK.
BUT IF NOT, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THAT 36 MONTH THING OUT OF THERE AND I DON'T THINK THE PRICE WILL CHANGE ONCE I LET 'EM KNOW BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY JUST AN OVERSIGHT ON THEIR PART.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T OBLIGATE THE COUNTY FOR ANYTHING LONGER THAN 12 MONTHS.
IT HAS TO BE ANNUAL AND IT CAN RENEW, BUT IT HAS TO BE ANNUAL.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BRING BACK OR THIS IS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO ANSWER TONIGHT FOR THIS, OR CAN YOU I, I CAN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROGRAM PURCHASE FOR THE EMS TO PURCHASE THE SOFTWARE WITH FUNDS, FUNDS FROM THEIR BUDGET.
UH, FROM UH, ICP ALLTECH SOFTWARE IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,278 FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
PENDING APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT BY THE PENDING APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT BY COUNSEL.
IS THERE A PENALTY IF AFTER THE FIRST YEAR WE DON'T THINK IT'S WARRANTED? I MEAN, IF WE'RE NOT GETTING WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT TO WHERE? 12 MONTHS, IF IT'S NOT RIGHT, WE'RE DONE.
SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WEST STEIN TO PROVE THE COST OF THE IMPLEMENTED SOFTWARE FROM ICP.
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DEPOSIT, REQUEST FOR MATERIALS.NEIL COFFEY, CONTRACT CONSULTANT IN FRONT OF YOU.
IN YOUR PACKETS, YOU WERE SENT A, UH, A, A REQUEST FROM M BUILDERS TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE THE MATERIALS FOR THE CALL WALL PROJECT.
NOW WE APPROVED THAT ESTIMATE ON, ON OUR FEBRUARY 20TH MEETING, AND AS I STARTED ROLLING THE PROJECT UP, I NOTICED IN HIS ESTIMATE THAT'S ALSO IN, IN YOUR PACKET, HE HAD NO MILESTONE PAYMENT SCHEDULE.
AND SO I, I CALLED HIM AND ASKED HIM WHAT HIS PAYMENT STRATEGY WAS GOING TO BE AND HE HAD ONE SIMPLE REQUEST.
HE SAID, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PRE-PURCHASE THE MATERIALS AND HAVE THEM ON SITE FOR $10,000 AND THEN I WILL NOT INVOICE AGAIN TILL THE END OF THE PROJECT.
UH, MY, MY RESPONSE TO THAT, AND MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IS TYPICALLY WHEN A CONTRACT LIKE THIS IS, THIS IS TAKEN, IF IT HAS A MILESTONE PAYMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT, 10% UPFRONT ON SIGNATURE FOR MATERIALS IS VERY COMMON.
HE DID INCLUDE THAT IN THIS AND THIS, THIS, THIS IS LESS THAN THAT 10% AMOUNT.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IS WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IN BUILDERS TO PURCHASE MATERIALS IN ADVANCE FOR $10,000.
NEIL, YOU SAID IT WOULD BE ON SITE, RIGHT? HE SAID IT WOULD BE ON SITE.
HE SAID HE HAS STORAGE WHERE HE CAN PUT IT AND IT WOULD BE SAFE AND SECURE AND DRY UNTIL HE STARTED THE PROJECT, WHICH IS STILL ON SCHEDULE FOR LATE MARCH.
I KNOW, BUT THE MATERIALS WILL BE ON SEWARD COUNTY SITE.
I I THINK HE HAS OFFSITE STORAGE OF HIS OWN.
SO WHAT I WOULD OFFER, IF THAT'S A CONCERN FOR THE COMMISSIONERS AND, AND IT IS ALWAYS A CONCERN THAT THE MATERIAL WAS NOT RECEIVED, IS I WOULD PUT HANDS ON IT BEFORE WE APPROVE THE INVOICE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT WAS ON ACTUALLY BEEN RECEIVED.
WHAT DO YOU NEED? A SPECIAL CHECK.
IF WE COULD PLEASE GET PERMISSION FOR A SPECIAL CHECK, BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING HE NEEDS TO ORDER THIS BEFORE YOUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING TO GET IT HERE TO START THE PROJECT.
SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR A TO, TO APPROVE PAYMENT.
IS THAT THE WORD STATION? SPECIAL CHECK.
FOR A $10,000 DRAW FOR MATERIALS ON THE ACTIVITY CENTER PROJECT TO M BUILDERS.
SO THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HELM TO APPROVE IN BUILDER'S REQUEST OF $10,000 VIA SPECIAL CHECK FOR THE SAID MATERIAL AND THE FINAL INVOICING BALANCE WILL BE AT THE COMPLETION OF THE REPAIR WORK.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARR.
PASSES FIVE AND OH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS NEIL.
MOST OF YOU'RE AWARE AT THIS TIME THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ON OUR THIRD WEEK OF THE COURTHOUSE REPAIR AND DURING WEEK ONE, AS WE WERE REMOVING ONE OF THE PRIMARY SECTIONS OF THE ROOF OR ONE OF THE DRAINS CAME OUT, CAME ALONG WITH IT.
WE'VE ATTACHED SOME PHOTOS OF THAT TO YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH.
AS WE REVIEW THE DRAINS ACROSS THE REST OF THE BUILDING, WE KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE MORE OF THIS SAME TYPE THAT THE BUILDER HAS NEVER EVEN SEEN BEFORE.
SO HIS SUGGESTION TO YOU IS THAT WE FIGURE ON REPLACING THE REST OF THE DRAINS TO ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF LEAKS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
ONE IS AS THOSE LEAKS PENETRATE INTO THE CEILINGS, THEY'VE BEEN IMPACTED OVER THE YEARS.
AND THIS PARTICULAR DRAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT WAS FRACTURED OFF AND THE REST OF THE DRAINS HAVE SO MANY COATINGS OF TOP COAT ASPHALT ON THEM.
IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SAVE THEM WHEN WE PULL UP THE ROOF AROUND THEM.
SO THIS WOULD, WOULD INVOLVE THE REPLACEMENT OF EIGHT DRAINS, TWO DRAINS WERE ALREADY CONTEMPLATED FOR REPLACEMENT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGE ORDER IS ISSUED IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,685.
AND I WOULD RECOMMEND, AND AND THAT I JUST HANDED THAT TO YOU TONIGHT, THAT JUST CAME IN THIS EVENING.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE HANDOUTS THAT I GAVE YOU THIS EVENING.
SO, SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT CHANGE ORDER OF $7,685 TO KEEP UP WITH THE PROJECT AND REPLACE THOSE DRAINS.
WHAT ABOUT THE OPEN-ENDED CONDUIT OR MESSED UP WIRING? SO WHAT WE'RE FINDING COMMISSIONER HELM ON THOSE IS THAT GREG RICE IS ABLE TO RESOLVE A LOT OF THOSE PROBLEMS AND THE THE WIRING AND CONDUIT THAT IS, THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WORK
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ON IS ACTUALLY IN THE SCOPE OF THE ROOFING CONTRACTOR AND HE'LL HAVE HIS ELECTRICIAN COME IN AND FIX THOSE.IT WON'T BE A SEPARATE CHANGE ORDER.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CHANGE ORDER.
ALLOW HIM THE CONTRACTOR TO REPLACE THE DRAINS AS NEEDED IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,685.
SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.
DO A ROLL CALL VOTE IF THERE'S NO FURTHER INE.
YOU'RE UP AGAIN ON ITEM NUMBER 13.
SO THIS ITEM INVOLVES SOME INFORMATION NEEDED FROM YOU AS THE COMMISSION.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO IN THE WAY OF BACKGROUND AND JUST WALK US BACK TO THROUGH 2023 STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS WHERE A PROJECT EMERGED FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE RODEO ARENA.
IT PROGRESSED THROUGH THE BALANCE OF 2023 WITH VARIOUS PHASES OF PROGRESS BEING MADE ON THAT, BUT IT NEVER REALLY GOT ONTO THE DRAWING BOARD OF WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO HERE IN 2024.
UH, A A BID SCOPE WAS APPROVED AND ISSUED AND, AND BIDS WERE ACTUALLY RECEIVED BACK AND OPENED UP ON FEBRUARY 22ND, 2024.
AND IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR BID PACKETS, YOU'LL SEE THE BID EVALUATION ON THOSE BIDS THAT WERE RECEIVED.
NOW YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE LOW BID ON THIS IN THIS INSTANCE WAS FROM STOPPEL DIRT LLC FOR $391,000 FOLLOWED UP BY DIRK'S ENTERPRISE FOR $510,000.
MY ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU IS TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT UNTIL WE TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHY OF HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
'CAUSE AS I STARTED PUTTING THIS PROJECT TOGETHER, AND I'VE PROVIDED YOU WITH A HANDOUT TONIGHT WHEN I PLUGGED IN THAT $391,000 FIGURE AND, AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT YOU, AS THE COMMISSION SET ASIDE $500,000 OUT OF ARPA FUNDS TO FUND THIS RODEO ARENA RELOCATION.
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM MY BUDGETARY ESTIMATES THE ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, BUDGETARY ESTIMATES, THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW IS PROJECTING TO BE COMPLETED AT $869,000, WHICH FALLS WELL AHEAD OF THE $500,000 WE HAVE SET ASIDE.
SO I KNEW I NEEDED TO COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU AND GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD.
I ALSO WANTED TO OFFER YOU SOME OTHER OPTIONS SINCE ORIGINALLY THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINATED WHEN THE BLEACHERS AT THE EXISTING RODEO ARENA WERE DESTROYED BY A STORM AND WE GOT SOME INSURANCE MONEY TO REPLACE THOSE.
THERE HAD BEEN SOME ESTIMATES RECEIVED BY COMMISSIONER WETSTEIN AND THOSE ESTIMATES INCLUDE CONCRETE AND SET A AS WELL AS THE BLOOD BID FOR THE USED BLEACHERS.
AND I'M SHOWING YOU THOSE OPTIONS THERE FOR THOSE USED BLEACHERS.
OPTION ONE BEING A 1200 PEOPLE BLEACHER AT $350,000.
AND IN OPTION TWO, A 1500 PEOPLE BLEACHER FOR $450,000.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY NEW RESTAURANT RESTROOMS AS IT'S CONTEMPLATED THE, THE RODEO COMMITTEE OR WHOEVER'S USING THAT FACILITY WOULD BRING IN PORTA-POTTIES TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR EXPECTED CROWD.
NOW, ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN BY GOING BACK AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS THESE IN HIS BID, IT SAYS THEY'RE IN THERE.
WE JUST WANNA DOUBLE CHECK IT.
IT IS IF THIS IS THE OPTION THAT YOU DIRECT ME TO PURSUE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S COMPLETE.
NOW, OPTION NUMBER THREE THAT I'M OFFERING YOU ALSO IS TO RECONFIGURE THE CIVIL PORTION OF THE RODEO ARENA RELOCATION.
'CAUSE IF YOU RECALL IN THE SECOND QUARTER STRATEGIC PLANNING UPDATE, YOU AS THE COMMISSION STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW IF WE DID THIS WORK ON THE RODEO ARENA AND UNDERSTANDING THE PROPENSITY FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS PROPERTY TO FLOOD, WE COULD ACTUALLY EXACERBATE THAT PROBLEM IF WE MAKE THE WRONG MOVES.
SO CALL, CALL VALLEY ENGINEERING WAS COMMISSIONED TO COME IN AND DO A TOPOGRAPHICAL STUDY AND THEN THEY WERE COMMISSIONED TO DO AN ELEVATION STUDY TO PROVIDE TO THE DIRT CONTRACTORS ON HOW AND WHERE TO MOVE THE DIRT.
NOW THAT STUDY AND THOSE BIDS TOOK PLACE OVER 100% OF THE AREA INSIDE THE ROCK WALL.
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WE COULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT INITIAL PROJECT DOWN TO WHAT WAS THE, THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS, WHICH WOULD BE THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE ROCK WALL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE RODEO ARENA, THE DRAINAGE OFF INTO THE AREAS WHERE IT NEEDED TO GO, AND NOT TOUCH FROM A CIVIL DIRT WORK PERSPECTIVE, ANYTHING OVER ON THE EXISTING RODEO ARENA SITE.NOW I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GET ANYBODY EXCITED, NONE OF THIS WORK IS ACCELERATED INTO THE CURRENT RODEO AND FAIR PROGRAM.
WORK IS STILL CONTEMPLATED TO START AFTER THOSE PROGRAMS ARE COMPLETE IN SEPTEMBER, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
I DID VISIT WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM TODAY ABOUT THAT, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT I NOTED IT'S A, HE, HE SAID IT'S A SIMPLE ENOUGH PROCESS TO CUT IT IN HALF, BUT HE'S VERY RETICENT TO TAKE IT TO A BID BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID FROM THE QUANTITY OF THE JOB THAT'S BEEN REDUCED, NO ONE WOULD BID ON IT.
SO IT'S HIS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GO BACK TO, UH, STOPPEL IN THIS CASE AND SAY, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF WE CUT THIS WORK IN HALF WITH YOUR BID? UM, I'M CONCERNED AND IT'LL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BY LEGAL COUNSEL IF THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT, THAT I AM HERE TO PRESENT TONIGHT.
AND I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO ANY OPTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME TO FOLLOW TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD.
I MYSELF AM STILL IN FAVOR OF OPTION ONE.
WE STARTED THIS PROJECT TO DO, UM, THE WHOLE THING AND HALF OF THAT WOULD BE BLEACHERS WITH OPTION TWO WITHOUT BATHROOMS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
UM, IF WE PUT NEW BLEACHERS IN AT THE EXIST WHERE THE EXISTING RODEO ARENA IS AT PER PLANNING AND ZONING.
SO THAT WOULD STILL RAISE THAT 350,000 UP TO AT LEAST HALF AND WE STILL WOULD HAVE THE GRANDSTANDS NOT DONE OR ANY OF THAT AREA OVER THERE.
THAT'S MY, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PLANNING AND ZONING GAVE US ANOTHER OPINION ON THAT.
THAT IF WE PUT THE BLEACHERS IN AT THE EXISTING RODEO ARENA AND BROUGHT IN PORTA-POTTIES, THAT IT WOULD WAIVE THE NEED FOR A NEW BATHROOM.
THERE WE GO AGAIN THOUGH, WE'RE BAND-AIDING SOMETHING WHEN I, WHEN I MYSELF SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF, WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT DONE PROFESSIONALLY WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING WE'RE PROUD OF.
OKAY, SO WE, WE HAVE 500,000 SET ASIDE WHERE WE PRO UH, PROPOSING THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE OTHER 360 TO $400,000.
UM, SO YOU GUYS DID HAVE $500,000 THAT YOU'VE SET ASIDE IN ARPA FUNDS, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO THE REMAINING AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE IF YOU'RE WILLING TO RELOOK AT ARPA FUNDS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT FINALIZED EVERYTHING, UM, UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ELSE YOU COULD TAKE THAT MONEY FROM, FROM ARPA FUNDS OR YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR RESERVES TOO.
BUT THAT IS A LARGE AMOUNT TO TRY TO TAKE OUT OF, UM, YOUR RESERVES.
UH, SORRY, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS I DO HAVE OUR GRANT WRITER TRYING TO HELP ME LOOK AT, UM, SOME GRANT OPTIONS FOR THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF ANY, AT THE TIME WE THOUGHT WE HAD ONE AND THEN WE FOUND OUT WE HAVE TO BE UNDER 20,000 IN POPULATION AND WE'RE JUST BARELY OVER THAT.
BUT I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT I CAN FIND A GRANT, UM, THAT WOULD COVER THAT.
GEEZ, THIS IS JUST GONNA CAUSE MORE GRIEF IN MISERY, BUT WE CAN NEVER MAKE A DECISION.
BUT WHAT DOES THE RODEO COMMITTEE THINK? HE WANTS TO KNOW.
I MEAN, I THINK IT, IT'D BE NICE IF WE JUST MOVED ALL OVER THERE AND ALL DONE, BUT THE PRICE GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER.
BUT IF WE GOT SOME REALLY NICE STANDS AND GOT THE BATHROOMS BUILT, I THINK WE CAN LIVE WITH IT AND GIVE US SOME PARKING.
BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT THE BIG COVERED, I MEAN COVERED BLEACHERS.
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THEM? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA PUT IN THERE? UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF MY OPINION.
I, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF FAVOR, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HELP, LIKE THE FAIR, THE RODEO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING
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OUT THERE, NOT JUST FOR RODEO.UH, MAYBE YOU COULD BRING IN SOME MORE STUFF.
UH, MAYBE SOME, UH, OTHER RODEO STUFF IN LIKE, UH, THE RANCH RODEOS THAT REALLY CAN BRING IN A LOT OF MONEY.
IF THE FAIRER LOOKED AT IT, I THINK FROM THE GUY FROM ME, I TALKED TO HIM, THEY MADE MONEY, BUT THAT'S JUST IF THEY WANNA LOOK AT THAT AND HELP.
SO, BUT THAT'S JUST, I THINK OUR OPINION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING.
COME UP HERE,
I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME TO GET US IN THERE? IF YOU'RE GONNA MOVE US, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE ORIGINAL BACK TO THE ORIGINAL? WE CAN'T GET IN THIS YEAR.
WELL, I KNOW THAT, BUT WILL, WILL WE BE IN NEXT YEAR? WE'LL BE IN THE YEAR AFTER.
WELL, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT FOR THREE YEARS NOW THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE NEW STANDS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD IT YET.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS WE JUST, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTINUE IF WE CAN'T GET MORE SEATING.
AND IT'S BEEN PUT OFF NOW FOR THREE YEARS.
SO I, THAT'S ALL I'M WORRIED ABOUT.
IF WE CAN GET IN, WE ARE OKAY WITH MOVING IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T WANNA MOVE.
AND WE MADE PLANS AND ALREADY CHECKING ON OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN USE THE TRACK FOR, UM, IF OUR ARENA'S OVER IN THAT AREA.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T, AREN'T APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AT ALL.
IT'S JUST THE TIMEFRAME AND, AND WHAT IT'S DOING TO BUILDING SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD HERE IN LIBERAL AND IT'S NOT GETTING THERE, I GUESS.
SO I MEAN IF IT GETS DONE NEXT YEAR, THEN IT'S WHAT WE WERE PLANNING ON ANYWAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN ON THE, IF WE WOULD BRING IN THESE, UH, USED ONES AND, AND THERE IS A COST IN THERE FOR DO HAVE THEM, UH, UH, STAMPED BY A ENGINEER TO, UH, SO THAT THEY WOULD BE, UH, OKAY AND WE'D BE HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
ONE THING ABOUT IT, EVEN IF WE BROUGHT THE BIG SET IN AT 450,000, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE REST REMAINDER OF THE 500,000 PLUS THE MONEY THAT WE'D RECEIVED FROM INSURANCE, UH, THAT WE COULD PROB GO AHEAD AND PROBABLY GET THE ROOF ON THE GRANDSTAND AND GET AND, AND TRY TO GET THAT STOP FROM DECAYING AND GET THE ROOF ON THE GRANDSTAND.
AND THEN, I MEAN THE, THE FAIR THE FAIR HAS SAID THAT THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THE GRANDSTANDS FOR THEIR, THEIR EVENTS AND EVERYTHING.
UM, UH, SO THIS WOULD STILL, IF IF WE WOULD JUST PUT A NEW, THE SET OF USED GRANDSTAND IN AT THE EXISTING ARENA AND WHETHER IT BE THE 350,000 COSTS OR THE 450,000 COSTS, WE WOULD STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER TO DO THE ROOF.
UH, THE FAIR THEN AND FAIR BOARD WOULD HAVE THE GRANDSTANDS TO DO THE EVENTS THAT THEY NEED TO DO.
UH, THE RODEO WOULD, UH, HAVE, HAVE THE, UH, BLEACHERS TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
UM, WE COULD HAVE, WE, I I HAVE TALKED TO THE GUY THAT THAT SENT ME THE BID.
WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE, UH, GRANDSTANDS IN AT THE EXISTING ARENA WITHIN TWO MONTHS INTO MAY.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD PUT US IN A GOOD TIMEFRAME, UH, FINISHING UP BEFORE THINGS WERE GOING.
UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY.
THE OTHER NICE THING, THE OTHER NICE THING ABOUT THESE BLEACHERS ARE THE FACT THAT, UH, THE PRICE OF THIS IS INCLU INCLUDED THE, UH, UNDER METAL, UNDER PIECES UNDER THE BLEACHERS SO THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST HAD WISHED FOR WAS A WAS A 40 BY HUNDRED, UH, COVERED CARPORT TYPE DEAL TO PUT VENDORS UNDER.
WELL THE THING ABOUT THESE BLEACHERS ARE THEY ARE A POST AND BEAM BLEACHERS AND THEY'RE, THE, THE POSTS ARE LIKE 18 FEET APART, ONE DIRECTION, 14 FEET APART, THE OTHER DIRECTION.
SO THEREFORE, AND WHEN, WHEN WE CONCRETED EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH THERE, THEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A RAMP APPROXIMATELY, UH, 40 TO 50 WIDE DEPENDING ON WHICH BLEACHER SET BY 138 AREA THAT WOULD BE COVERED, THAT WOULD BE COVERED, THAT THE VENDORS WOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN AND UTILIZE AND, AND AND BE, BE COVERED VENDORS.
SO, UH, WE WOULD BE SAVING THE MONEY.
WE WOULD BE SAVING THE MONEY AND NOT HAVING TO, UH, BUILD A BUILDING.
IT WOULD STILL LEAVE EVERYTHING OPEN
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AND WE COULD UTILIZE IT THAT WAY.COMMISSIONER ABBOTT, I DID WANNA APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I DID, UM, FORGET AND, AND I APPRE APPRECIATE MRS. CHANCE POINTING OUT, WE DO HAVE SOME INSURANCE MONEY AND COMMISSIONER WETTSTEIN JUST ALLUDED TO THAT AS WELL, WHEN OUR BLEACHERS WERE DAMAGED DUE TO THE STORM.
IT'S NOT A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT IT IS SOME MONEY, UM, THAT COULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COST.
APPROXIMATELY 68,000 I, I BELIEVE SO.
I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT AMOUNT, BUT SO ON THIS ELECTRICAL INCLUDING SOUND, WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT FOR? SO THAT INCLUDES ALL THE LIGHTING OF THE ARENA, ALL THE SOUND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN AND THE POWER TO GO BEHIND AND WHERE THE HORSE TRAILERS AND EVERYTHING WOULD SET UP.
SO THE ELECTRICAL SCOPE HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED.
SO THAT, THAT IS A BUDGETARY ROUGH ORDER MAGNITUDE ESTIMATE.
SO NONE OF THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE IF THE ARENA STAYED WHERE IT'S AT.
NOW WE DID HEAR EARLIER FROM FROM THE RODEO BOARD THAT IF WE WANTED TO HAVE THE, UH, THE RANCH RODEOS, WE WOULD NEED TO IMPROVE THE LIGHTING A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WAS THAT, WAS THAT CORRECT MR. CHANCE? SO WE OH, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
EVEN IT NEEDS TO BE DONE ANYWAY.
BUT, BUT THAT IT'S NOT, THAT IS NOT CONTEMPLATED.
SO THAT'S JUST ADJUSTING THE LIGHTING THAT'S ALREADY IN.
SO EVEN IF YOU USE THE 350,000 PLUS DEDUCTING YOUR 68, YOU STILL ARE INCURRING COSTS.
NOW YOU SAID FOR CONCRETE UNDER BLEACHERS THAT ISN'T IN THIS AND YOU STILL HAVE TO DO ALL THE BATHROOMS. THE CONCRETE, THE CONCRETE IN THE THREE 50 AND THE FOUR 50 BID IS INCLUDED IN THOSE PRICES.
YOU SAID CONCRETE UNDER BLEACHERS FOR THE VENDORS.
THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PRICE? YEAH, THAT'S IN THAT THREE, THAT'S IN THAT THREE 50 AND FOUR 50 NUMBER.
THE ONLY THING I DON'T SEE ON THE QUOTE FROM THE VENDOR IS THAT UNDER, UNDER SEAT NO PROTECTION.
IT'S NOT IN, IT'S NOT IN THERE.
BUT I DID ASK HIM AND HE SAID THAT WAS A 20,000 AD, SO WE ADDED THE 20,000 IN THERE.
SO, SO MY QUESTION IS TO GET THIS, WE, THREE OF US ARE NEW ON THIS COMMISSION AND TO GET THIS, UH, UM, RODEO AREA, ARENA AREA, COMPARABLE, SAFE LIGHTING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IT'S GONNA COST SOME MONEY.
MY QUESTION WITH THESE BLEACHERS, HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY TIMES WILL WE, WE SPEND ALMOST $500,000 ON BLEACHERS AND HOW MANY TIMES WILL WE SIT IN THEM IN A YEAR INSTEAD OF USING THE WHERE THE NEW PLACE WOULD BE FOR OTHER THINGS AS WELL? RIGHT.
I I I DON'T MEAN NO DISRESPECT AND I I LOVE NEW STUFF, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS OF HOW MANY TIMES WE WILL SIT IN THESE $500,000 BLEACHERS IN A YEAR'S TIME.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY TIMES YOU COULD RENT IT OUT.
CURRENTLY LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE, HOW MANY TIMES? HOW MANY? I DON'T KNOW.
CURRENTLY THE ONLY TIME WE'D USE IT IS TWO NIGHTS A YEAR.
TWO NIGHTS A YEAR? NO, YOU DO THE RANCH RODEO THAT CROSSROADS HAS THE RANCH IF DID RODEO.
OH, CROSSROADS DOES THE RANCH RODEO.
YOU YOU GOT CROSSROADS THAT COME IN.
AND THEY USE THE, THE ARENA AND AND THEN THEY HAVE THE HORSE SHOWS.
THE HORSE SHOWS FOR THE FAIR, FOR THE FAIR IF THEY WERE THERE.
SO, AND THEN THERE HAS BEEN TIMES WHERE IRMA HAS HAD A FEW EVENTS OUT THERE WHERE SHE UTILIZES IT INSIDE THE RODEO ARENA.
BUT I MEAN RIGHT NOW THAT THAT'S THE ONLY EVENTS, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE CROWDS FOR ALL THOSE OTHER EVENTS? NOT LARGE.
THEY'RE NOT AS LARGE AS THE RODEO NOW.
THEY'RE NOT AS LARGE AS THE RODEO.
BUT I MEAN THE STANDS THAT ARE THERE PROBABLY HANDLE 'EM JUST FINE.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FOR THE NEED FOR EXTRA SEATING FOR THOSE OTHER EVENTS.
IT'S JUST IF WE DON'T HAVE BIGGER STANDS, WE CAN'T GROW NO MORE.
WE'RE JUST LIKE LAST YEAR WE HAD PEOPLE, THEY SPENT VERY GOOD MONEY AND I HEARD TWO OR THREE OF 'EM SAID THEY, WE WON'T BE BACK.
WE SPENT 80 BUCKS AND THEY HAD NO SEATS.
AND RENTING, RENTING STANDS IS OUT OF THE QUESTION AS WE TRY TO FORTIFY THE ENTIRE RODEO ARENA IN ALL OF THOSE.
WELL, THEY CHECKED ON APRIL, CHECKED ON THAT ONCE.
IF YOU NEEDED TO DO THAT FOR ONE YEAR MAYBE, BUT IT'S VERY COST PROHIBITIVE TO DO THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR.
AND YOU WOULD GET INTO BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT PURCHASING
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THESE USED BLEACHERS, UM, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ONGOING WHERE ONLY TWO TO THREE TIMES MAYBE WOULD YOU BRING, BE ABLE TO BRING IN THIS NUMBER OF SEATING FOR, UM, RENTED BLEACHERS EACH YEAR.SO WITHOUT BEING INTERRUPTED AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE IF I INTERRUPT YOU, HOW MUCH AS I RECALL, THE BLEACHERS THAT GOT DESTROYED IN A TORNADO WAS 300 SEATS.
SO AN ADDITIONAL 900 WOULD BE FOUR TIMES THE CAPACITY.
SO I'LL JUST GO OUT THERE AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD THIS NATHAN
YEAH, IF YOU'RE GONNA, UM, BE BUYING THESE BLEACHERS, YOU COULD WAIVE THE PURCHASING POLICY, UH, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE USED AND YOU'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, USED PRICING SITUATIONS.
SO, UH, YOU JUST MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE PURCHASING POLICY AND WHATEVER YOU OFFICER WANT DO SUSPECT, CAN YOU MAKE THAT WHATEVER YOU FIT INTO THEM, BOTTOM LINE IS AND WHICH ONES ARE YOU LOOKING? I THINK THE 1200 THAT'S FOUR TIMES.
BELIEVE NEIL HAS SPECIFICATIONS THAT HE JUST STEPPED OUT FOR A BUT THE SIZE OF THE BLEACHERS, THEY'RE 138 BY RIGHT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GONNA MEET ALL THE THEY'LL HA BE HANDICAPPED ENGINEERING CODES.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU SAID? THE BID CAME SPECIFICATIONS, BUT I KNOW IT SAYS THAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND WE DO THAT BEFORE WE EVER MAKE A MOTION TO DO IT.
THE DIFFERENCE TOO IS IF, IF WE BUY THESE, THEY ARE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
YOUR GRANDSTAND IS NOT, IT'S NOT HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
AND THESE WOULD HAVE PART OF THIS THAT NEIL HAD IN THERE TOO.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE STAMPED ENGINEERS AS WELL.
AND SO IT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT YOUR SPECIFICATIONS ARE MET AS WELL.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY HINGE THAT I SEE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE GET WE GET WHAT WE GET.
UM, AND AT COST NOT TO EXCEED 350,000.
UM, AND WE APPLY THE INSURANCE PROCEEDS TO THE ESTATE.
SO DO WE HAVE A FOR SURE THAT BATHROOMS DON'T HAVE TO BE BUILT APRIL? I'M SORRY.
HAS PLANNING AND ZONING SAID FOR SURE THAT BATHROOMS DO NOT HAVE TO BE BUILT? THEY, THEY DID TALK TO US AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING BECAUSE OF YOU ONLY HAVING THE MINIMAL EVENT OUT THERE, THEY WOULD ALLOW PORTA POTTIES TO BE BROUGHT IN.
BUT EACH PERSON THAT WOULD RENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF SEATING.
NOW I ALREADY KNOW PRCA DOES THAT AS WELL AS THE FAIR, BUT YOUR OTHER, UM, LIKE YOUR CROSSROADS PEOPLE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF SEATING.
EVEN IF THEY DON'T UTILIZE THAT, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK PLANNING AND ZONING IF THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO AS WELL.
OH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA TO SAY IS IF EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE AND THAT, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO, UM, WHO WAS ASKING AND THAT HILLARY'S HERE, BUT I DOUBT IF SHE KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT
WOULD THEY GONNA HAVE TO UPGRADE THE OLD BATHROOM TOO? NO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING BUILDING IN.
THAT'S NOT, AND I GUESS ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, RIGHT, CAN THIS NOT BE BID OUT? I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT SOMETHING THAT JUST ABSOLUTELY, THERE'S ONLY ONE USED STRUCTURE.
I MEAN, USED A SET OF BLEACHERS OUT THERE.
THERE ARE WITH COUNTY STRUCTURES, THERE ARE SOME BIDDING REQUIREMENTS PER STATUTE.
AND SO, UM, I I'M, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE BIT HESITANT SAYING THAT WE CAN JUST NOT BID THIS OUT AT ALL.
SO IS THIS TRULY A SITUATION WHERE IT CAN'T BE BID OUT AND THERE IS ONLY ONE SOURCE?
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SO MY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE, IF THAT'S THE OPTION THAT THE COMMISSIONERS CHOSE FOR ME TO FOLLOW, I THINK WE COULD PURSUE A BID.I I JUST, I JUST, I JUST DIDN'T WANNA SPEND MY TIME CHASING AN OPTION THAT THE COMMISSION DIDN'T DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT ME PURSUING AS THE PROJECT MANAGER.
WELL IT'S SOUNDING LIKE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT OPTION TWO, OPTION TWO SUB SUB OPTION ONE
UM, AND SO I GUESS, I GUESS I, WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING THIS TYPE OF MONEY, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT BIDDING IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS TO BE BID OUT SOME SPECIFICATIONS AND GET IT BID OUT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IN IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS WITH STRUCTURES WE HAVE TO BID OUT PURSUANT TO STATUTE WITHOUT DOING RESEARCH.
I DON'T KNOW IF BLEACHERS ARE CONSIDERED A COUNTY BUILDING UNDER THAT STATUTE.
I I DO KNOW THAT ALLEN COTTON WAS, WE'D WORKED WITH HIM FOR THREE YEARS AND HE WAS THE ONE WHO FINALLY, HE JUST SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF WE, HE'S THE ONE THAT'S BEEN GIVING US A PRICE ON NEW BIDS AND ALLEN COTTON WITH STON SPORTS WAS THE ONE WHO RECOMMENDED THAT WE CONTACT THIS GUY BECAUSE HE SAID, UM, YOU CAN GET USED BLEACHERS FROM HIM.
AND, AND THAT'S, I I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I DON'T KNOW, THERE MAY BE PEOPLE IN ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT GIVES, DOES USE BLEACHERS.
WE, WE MAY HAVE ONE IN KISMAT THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
BUT ANYWAY, I THINK, I DON'T THINK IT'S A REAL COMMON THING FOR A LOT OF COMPANIES TO HANDLE USED BLEACHERS.
I MEAN, WE ONLY HAD THREE COMPANIES I THINK THAT HANDLED NEW BLEACHERS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO BID IT OUT AND LET'S GET STARTED ON IT.
IT, THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMISSION, UM, WANTS TO GO.
AND THAT WAY YOU HAVE COVERED YOURSELVES AND TAKING IT OUT BID, WE WOULD NEED TO DO THE RESEARCH, UM, BASED ON STATUTE AND STATION.
WE KNOW THERE IS A STATUTE REGARD ROADS, UM, AND THE PRICE, BUT WE DO THINK THERE IS SOMETHING ON STRUCTURE AS WELL.
BUT NONE OF US KNOW THAT AMOUNT.
THERE, THERE IS ONE ON STRUCTURES.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IF, IF, AND IT'S BUILDING COUNTY BUILDINGS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY BLEACHER UNDER THE STATUTE.
I I MEAN I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO DO THIS, I WOULD, I WOULD BID IT OUT.
I THINK THAT AGAIN, THIS TYPE OF MONEY, UH, LIKE COMMISSIONER WETSTEIN SAYS THERE COULD BE ONE SITTING IN PLANES THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT.
SO I, I THINK THAT THE SPECIFICATIONS COULD BE DONE FAIRLY QUICKLY.
WE, UH, JUST KIND OF DOLE OUR, I'S CROSS ALL OUR T'S, GET IT BID OUT AND THEN, UH, HAVE A BID OPENING.
AND THEN WE, WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE PRICE AND SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS, BUT THEY, OUR WEBSITE, WE POST ALL OF THE BIDS ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE DO HAVE COMPANIES THAT FOLLOW THAT.
AND SO THEY SAY GET NOTIFIED EVERY TIME THERE'S A BID.
AND SO YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED AT HOW MANY YOU DO DO.
I WOULD LIKE US, UH, EACH COMMISSIONER TO BE ABLE TO VOCALIZE WHICH OPTION THEY PREFER SO THAT WE ARE FOR SURE IN MAJORITY OR NOT WHAT EVERYBODY'S THINKING.
AND I'LL START, I PREFER OPTION ONE AS A MORE COMPLETE PACKAGE FOR OUR COUNTY.
I WE JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU GUYS THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
THERE WAS NOT A SECOND YET, BUT THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR STILL DISCUSSION.
I, I ABOUT OPTION ONE, CJ I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, DOING STEVE'S MOTION BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO OPTION ONE.
SO IS THAT OPTION TWO? NO, WE'RE NOT MANUALLY, THAT'S WHERE I AM WITH
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OPTION ONE.I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD IT AT ALL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT A DRESS DOWN VERSION OF OPTION ONE IS WHERE WE JUST PUT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ARENA IN FRONT OF THE GRANDSTAND.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT OPTION ALONG WITH YOURS.
YOU KNOW, THE OPTION OF THE BLEACHER WHERE IT'S AT.
NOW I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE TWO SIDE BY SIDE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION? WHAT'S THAT? OH, STACIA WAS SAYING SHE DOES NOT TAKE MINUTES ON DISCUSSION ONLY ACTION TAKEN.
UM, BECAUSE I WAS SAYING BASED ON YOUR DISCUSSION, YOU HAVE TWO FOR OPTION ONE, TWO FOR OPTION TWO SUB OPTION ONE, AND THEN YOUR DISCUSSION OF OPTION THREE, CORRECT? YEP.
MR. COFFEE, HOW TOUGH WOULD IT BE TO GET BIDS LOOKING AT IT BOTH WAYS? I MEAN, OR OPTIONS? BOTH WAYS.
SO COMMISSIONER CRIER, I WOULD SHARE THIS WITH YOU.
CURRENTLY WITH CALL VALLEY, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE SPENT AS OF YESTERDAY, $25,550.
THEY DID NOT GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT WOULD COST TO RE-ENGINEER INTO OPTION THREE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PURSUE THAT.
I WOULD GUESS IT AROUND THE $10,000 PHASE.
AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK TO STOPPEL.
IF WE AWARD HIM THE BID OR TAKE IT BACK TO BID BASED ON, UM, GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL, THEY WOULD'VE TO BE TAKEN BACK TO BID BECAUSE IT, IT, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT JOB, ALTHOUGH IT'S SCALED DOWN.
JUST WE CAN'T JUST HAVE WHOLE OR DO A FRACTION.
THERE, THERE COULD BE ALL KINDS OF OTHER FACTORS THAT WENT INTO THE BID.
SO IF I RECALL WHEN WE FIRST CAME ON AND WE FIRST LOOKED AT THE, UH, MONEY THAT WE HAD IN ARPA FUNDS, I BELIEVE THEY HAD 800,000 AT THAT POINT FOR BLEACHERS.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE REQUEST.
UM, BUT AT THAT TIME THEY, THEY SCALED IT BACK AND SAID THEY ONLY HAD 500,000 FOR IT.
SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE TOO, I THOUGHT WE SCALED IT DOWN THE, THIS CURRENT COMMISSION YOU DID, BUT NOT THE OLD COMMISSION.
I THOUGHT IT SAID 800,000 ON THE FIRST TIME I SAW ARPA FUNDS.
IT WAS THE, SO THE FIRST COMMISSION TOOK REQUEST.
THERE WERE A LOT OF REQUESTS THAT CAME IN WELL OVER WHAT THEY HAD SET ASIDE IN ARPA FUNDS.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUESTS.
AND THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT $500,000 WOULD DO IT.
AND THEN WITH NEW BLEACHERS, CONCRETE WORK.
AND AT THE TIME I THINK THAT INCLUDED A NEW RESTROOM.
THEN WHEN YOU GUYS TOOK THE BUS TOUR, THE NEW COMMISSION RIGHT, TOOK THE BUS TOUR, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S KIND OF COST PROHIBITIVE.
SO LET'S LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO RELOCATE THE ARENA IN FRONT OF THE GRANDSTANDS.
AND THAT'S WHEN THAT IDEA TRANSPIRED.
NOT REALIZING AFTER THE TOPOGRAPHICAL SURVEY HOW MUCH THE CIVIL WORK WAS GOING TO COST TO DO THE DIRT WORK AND THE DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING.
SO, SO APRIL, ARE THERE POTENTIAL PLACES IF WE DO OPTION ONE OR A SCALE VERSION OF OPTION ONE, UM, WHERE THE LIGHTING, OF COURSE WE NEED LIGHTING.
ARE THERE OTHER PLACES THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED THESE FUNDS THAT CAN BE AS COMMISSIONED, AGREED UPON TO, TO TRY TO GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AND GET THESE THINGS DONE? AGAIN, YOU, YOU GUYS KNOW AND IT'S ON YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING TO HAVE TO RELOOK AND MAKE DECISIONS FOR YOUR ARPA FUNDS.
UM, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE, UNLESS THERE ARE CHANGES MADE TO THAT, AND AS OF RIGHT NOW THERE HAVE NOT BEEN, SO BY THE, BY DECEMBER YOU HAVE TO EARMARK WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SPEND ARPA
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FUNDS AND THEN YOU ONLY HAVE UNTIL 2026 TO THEN SPEND THOSE FUNDS.UM, ONCE YOU EARMARK THOSE FUNDS AND THAT REPORT IS SENT IN, UM, YOU CANNOT CHANGE PROJECTS.
THAT'S WHAT IT HAS TO BE USED FOR.
AND WHAT YOU DON'T USE HAS TO BE RETURNED, UM, IN ARPA FUNDS.
SO ONCE YOU EARMARK IT IN DECEMBER, UNLESS THEY CHANGE THAT DATE, THERE HAS BEEN SOME TALK THAT THEY'RE GONNA MOVE THAT OUT ANOTHER YEAR.
AS OF NOW, YOU HAVE TO EARMARK THAT MONEY AND THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SPEND IT ON BY DECEMBER OF 2024 AND THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE COMPLETED AND THE MONEY SPENT BY 2026.
UM, SO YOU GUYS STILL HAVE ROOM IN THERE? I MEAN, I'LL I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, BETWEEN THE OLD COMMISSION AND THE NEW COMMISSION ARPA FUNDS HAVE BEEN SPENT AND REPET AND, AND REVISED AND RELOOKED.
AT, AT AND RIGHT NOW WE ALSO HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE AND HOPES THAT WE WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH MASON SONY BRIDGE.
BUT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ON THAT TOO IS IF WE EARMARK THAT MONEY IN DECEMBER FOR MASON, SONY BRIDGE IS MASON SONY BRIDGE GONNA BE BUILT BY 2026? 'CAUSE IF IT'S NOT, THEN WE HAVE TO SEND THAT MONEY BACK AND WE DON'T WANNA SEND IT MONEY.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE A WORK SESSION AND TABLE THIS UNTIL NEXT MEETING AND LOOK AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE AND IF NOT THEN MAKE THE FINAL DECISION? WE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, CORRECT? SCOTT, YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND? YOU HAVE A MOTION? I THOUGHT CJ SECONDED.
I HAVEN'T SECONDED YET BECAUSE CAN I SECOND IT OR CAN I NOT? YEAH, WHY? YEAH.
OKAY, THEN I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
OUR TRACK RECORD HASN'T BEEN VERY GOOD LATELY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SPEND ON THE ACTIVITY CENTER PROBABLY IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, CLOSE TO 200,000 OF EXPENSES THAT WASN'T ANTICIPATED.
UM, SO IF I LOOK AT THIS 869,000, I THINK FOR OPTION ONE, THAT COULD BE 1,000,200 69,000.
WE JUST, WE HAVE NOTHING FIRM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN FIRM UP THESE BLEACHERS.
WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE RODEO THIS YEAR AND THEN WE CAN, IF, IF WE THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE GRANDSTANDS, WE GOT SOME MONEY LEFT OVER TO DO IT WITH, AS FAR AS MOVING DIRT, MAKING THE WHAT, WHATEVER WE, WHETHER THE COUNTY WOULD DECIDE TO DO WITH THAT FACILITY.
I'M ADAMANT THAT IT'LL BE USED FOR SOMETHING I A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT THE RODEO, THE FAIR USING IT.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT AS A COMMISSION, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO UTILIZE OUR FACILITIES FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMPLETE COUNTY.
NOT JUST FOUR TIMES A YEAR, BUT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE, UH, UP TO STATUS FOR EVERY CITIZEN.
AND I CALL FOR THE VOTE, SCOTT.
SO I JUST WORRY ABOUT THE COST OF THE 869,000.
I MEAN, I DO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO THE MOTION RIGHT NOW IS TO, IS TO WAIVE THE PURCHASING POLICY, PURCHASE THE BLEACHERS THAT WOULD SEAT 1200 PEOPLE.
BUT THERE ALSO MAY BE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT, THAT REQUIRE BIDDING.
AND SO JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU PASS THIS JUST BECAUSE YOU WAIVED YOUR PURCHASING POLICY, I NEED TO DO THE RESEARCH ON, ON BLEACHERS AND WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA COME UNDERNEATH UNDER THE STATUTE THAT REQUIRES THE BIDDING.
IF THAT REQUIRES THE BIDDING, IT'S GOTTA BE BID.
WHY NOT DO BIDDING WHEN WE GET BID, WE GET BIDS.
IF WE DON'T, WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
SO YOU HAVE ASKED, SO YOU ADD AND TO TAKE IT OFF THE BID TO YOUR MOTION.
I'M SORRY, WHAT? FOR WHAT DO YOU ADD? TAKE IT OFF FOR BID TO YOUR MOTION.
CJ I'LL, I'LL APPROVE THE SECOND AS A SECOND.
IT'S KIND OF BREAKING UP THERE.
SO THE MOTION WAS TO PROVE THE AMOUNT OF $350,000,
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WHICH NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT TO BID FOR THE 1200.I MEAN PROVE UP TO 350,000 AND BID THE PROJECT OUT.
WITH THE 1200 SEATING CAPACITY, RIGHT? YES.
AND THERE WAS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STEIN.
AND NOT TO PUT THE RODEO COMMITTEE ON THE SPOT, BUT I ASSUME IF WE GET YOU 1200 SEATS THAT YOU COULD FIND SOME DONATION TO DO SOME LIGHT WORK AND WELDING WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, WE CAN CAN FIND, I KNOW, I KNOW A GOOD WELDER.
HE'S A LITTLE CANTANKEROUS, BUT HE'S A GOOD WELDER.
OKAY, ROLL CALL VOTE WITTSTEIN.
SUTHERLAND, ABBOTT? NO CAR I PASSES.
IT'LL BE SENT OUT FOR BID ITEM NUMBER.
YOU, YOU ALSO HAVE, YOU HAD A BID OPENING AND YOU HAVE THREE BIDS THAT ARE, ARE SITTING HERE.
WE NEED A MOTION WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THOSE BIDS THAT WE NEED TO CLOSE? YES.
YEAH, I, I SAW THE BLOCK THAT SAID ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE ON THAT BID.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THOSE OR NOTIFY THEM.
THE BID WAS WITH STOPPEL, RIGHT? YES.
IS THERE A MOTION OUT THERE FOR THAT? SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE BID THAT WE NOTIFY THEM THAT YEAH.
IN PERSON BIDS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED, RIGHT NATHAN? THAT IS CORRECT.
MAKE A MOTION TO NOTIFY STAPEL AND THE OTHER PERSON THAT THE BIDS FOR THE DIRT WORKS.
UH, WERE TURNED DOWN AND NOT ACCEPTED.
WHO'S THE OTHER ONE? NATHAN STAPEL AND, UH, DIRKS ENTERPRISES.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WETSTEIN TO NOTIFY STAPEL DIRT AND DIRK'S ENTERPRISES THAT THE BIDS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED DUE TO DECLINING THE PROJECT.
AND COMMISSIONER CARS SECONDED.
ITEM NUMBER 14, A WAGE ADJUSTMENTS.
UM, AT OUR QUARTER ONE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, UM, YOU HAD ASKED THAT, UH, WE RESEARCH AND CONSIDER ADJUSTING THE WAGES OF COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT WERE NOT CURRENTLY MAKING $15 AN HOUR.
UM, I HAVE GONE BACK AND DONE THAT.
UM, THERE ARE EIGHT EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY BEING PAID UNDER THE $15 AN HOUR TO BRING THOSE EMPLOYEES UP TO $15 AN HOUR.
UM, THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT ANNUALLY FOR THE YEAR, AND THIS DOES NOT, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE BENEFITS, BUT IS $13,270 AND 40 CENTS.
I MAKE A MO MOTION TO APPROVE THE WAGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE EIGHT EMPLOYEES AND FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO COMPLETE STATUS CHANGES AND SUBMIT TO PAYROLL FOR THE ADJUSTMENTS TO BE MADE ON THE NEXT PAYROLL PERIOD TO BRING THEM UP TO $15 PER HOUR IN THE AMOUNT OF $13,270 40 CENTS ANNUALLY.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WITTSTEIN TO APPROVE THE WAGE ADJUSTMENTS WITH EIGHT EMPLOYEES AND FOR
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THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO COMPLETE THE STATUS CHANGES.SUBMIT THE PAYROLL FOR THE ADJUSTMENTS TO BE MADE ON THE NEXT PAYROLL PERIOD AT $15 AN HOUR.
AND THE COST SHOULD BE 13,000 270 40 ANNUALLY.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FULLER.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD 4 5, 5, POSSIBLY SIX HOUSES OUT IN, ON ANDREW LANE THAT GOT BURNED UP THE OTHER DAY.
AND THEN I DID HEAR THAT WE HAD A HOUSE ON ARLINGTON LANE HERE IN LIBERAL THAT ALSO GOT BURNT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW BAD IT'S BURNT.
UH, WHAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND I I TALKED TO, UH, BROCK TODAY ABOUT IT.
UM, BROCK SAID, I ASKED BROCK IF WE COULD MAKE, YOU KNOW, GIVE UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER FAMILY TO, UH, WAIVE THE, WAIVE THE TRASH DUMPING FEES FOR THE FAMILIES THAT GOT BURNED OUT.
BROCK SAID THAT HE, HE WAS AGREEABLE TO THAT AND HE SAID THE ONLY THING THAT HE COULD NOT TAKE, HE COULD NOT TAKE AUTOMOBILES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAUL AUTOMOBILES TO A SALVAGE YARD.
AND HE ALSO SAID THAT THERE ARE PLACES IN LIBERAL THAT, THAT IF THEY HAVE METAL, THAT THEY COULD HAUL THE METAL TO THEM.
AND BECAUSE BROCK SAID ALL THEY DO ON METAL IS WE'D BRING, BRING METAL TO THEM, WE CHARGE 'EM FOR THE PRICE OF THE METAL AND THEN, AND THEN WE, UH, HE GETS SOMEONE TO COME AND THEY BIND IT AND CRUSH IT AND HAUL IT OFF.
SO ANYWAY, BROCK SAID, AND, AND BROCK CAME TO THE MEETING TO ADDRESS THIS.
UM, BUT I WAS THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, VERY, IT WOULD BECAUSE WHEN I WENT OUT AND TALKED TO 'EM, BOTH OF, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO TWO FAMILIES, BOTH OF THEM SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN HELP US IN ANY WAY, IT WOULD BE GOOD.
SO MY THINKING IS IF WE COULD WAIVE THE FEES, THE, THE OF THE LANDFILL FEES FOR 'EM UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER FAMILY, AND UH, IF THEY DON'T HAUL THAT MUCH IN, THEN THAT'S FINE.
IF THEY HAUL OVER THAT, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY THE OVER THE THOUSAND DOLLARS THEMSELVES.
BUT, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN DO, WE COULD DO THAT.
AND LIKE I SAID, I WANT TO EVEN INCLUDE THE ONE ON ARLINGTON LANE THAT HAD THE FIRE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT ARE, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.
SO CJ, WHEN I WENT OUT THERE TO VISIT WITH THE FAMILIES, I TALKED TO ONE WITH A FIRE, JUMPED ACROSS, UM, ANDREW LANE AND JUST DEMOLISHED HER HOME THERE.
SHE HAD INSURANCE, BUT THE REST OF THEM, MOST OF THEM DID NOT HAVE INSURANCE.
NO, I'M, I'M, I'M TELLING YOU, I TALKED TO THE RESIDENT, MOST OF THEM DO NOT HAVE, THERE'S A, A FAMILY COMMUNITY THERE, SO THEY DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE.
AND SO I, I WOULD, THAT THE COUNTY DOES DOES HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE, BUT MOST OF THE STRUCTURE WAS BURNT TO THE GROUND FOR THE MOST PART.
UM, BARNES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, HOW, HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT DO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE ALREADY HERE, A SEWARD COUNTY THAT HELPS WITH THE DISASTER RELIEF? YOU KNOW, THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION WOULD'VE TO CHECK WITH GRADE STANDARD? WOULD WE SEE WE CAN GET SOME ASSISTANCE? YEAH.
SO, AND, AND STACIA AND I WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD WANT BROCK TO MAKE SURE THAT HE, UM, DOCUMENTS EVERYTHING.
UM, SO THAT YOU HAVE IT IN PLACE.
BUT I KNOW, UM, TO GET FEMA REIMBURSEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, THERE HAS TO, THERE'S LIKE A THRESHOLD OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT BEFORE YOU GET ANY FEMA ASSISTANCE.
IS THAT CORRECT, JOHN? IS THAT KIND OF YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF IT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MAGIC THRESHOLD NUMBER IS.
UM, BUT I I THINK BEING ACTUALLY HELPS RESIDENTIAL VERY MUCH THOUGH.
AND SO, UM, PERSEPHONE HAD ASKED, COMMISSIONER FULLER HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION DURING THE DISASTER, UM, THE OTHER DAY.
LIKE, WOULD THE GOVERNOR'S DECLARATION, IS THAT GONNA HELP ANYBODY? UM, SO MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN THE GOVERNOR MAKES A DECLARATION LIKE THAT, IT'S
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TO PROTECT YOUR PUBLIC MUNICIPALITIES.IT'S NOT, UM, TO HELP YOUR HOMEOWNERS.
YOUR HOMEOWNERS SHOULD HAVE, NOT ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS DID HAVE THEIR OWN INSURANCE COVERAGE AND THEIR COVERAGES FOR DISASTERS AS SUCH.
SO FEMA IS NOT OUT THERE TO HELP EACH INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER.
FEMA IS OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE YOUR PUBLIC MUNICIPALITIES, UM, ARE PROTECTED IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER AND CAN CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS FOR THEIR COUNTY.
UM, NOW AS FAR AS LIBERAL CO AREA COALITION FOR FAMILIES, THEY PROVIDED MM-HMM,
UM, THEY PROVIDED NECESSITIES, UM, THAT THEY NEEDED.
OF COURSE THAT'S NOT COMPLETELY ONGOING.
THAT WAS TO HELP TAKE CARE OF THEM THAT NIGHT.
SO WE HAVE THOSE TYPE OF RESOURCES.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, SCOTT.
SO WHAT ALSO ABOUT, HAVE WE HELPED INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES THAT HAVE HAD HOMES BURNED DOWN BEFORE? WHAT KIND OF PRECEDENCE WOULD THIS SERVE AND GOING IT FORWARD IN THE FUTURE? AND BROCK WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
I DO KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE TORNADO, WE HELPED INDIVIDUALS BY PUTTING OUT ROLL OFFS.
THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TEAMED UP TOGETHER, UM, WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE PROVIDED UM, LIKE HEAVY DUTY TRASH BAGS.
AND I THINK, UH, THE LIBERAL AREA COALITION FOR FAMILIES HELP THERE TOO TO, UM, PROVIDE THEM WITH THE HEAVY DUTY TRASH BAGS TO HELP CLEAN STUFF UP.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANNA MENTION IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PEOPLE'S HOMES, BUT, UM, SO THERE WERE FIVE TO SIX HOMES, BUT THERE WERE EIGHT, UM, STRUCTURES IN ALL.
SO LIKE SOME PEOPLE LOST, UH, LIKE ONE HOME WAS SAVED, BUT THEY LOST THE GARAGE.
UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CLEANUP INVOLVED IN THAT TOO.
BUT BROCK, AS FAR AS ASSISTING PEOPLE WITH FIRES BEFORE, HAVE WE DONE THAT? I, I DON'T KNOW.
WE HELPED WITH THE TORNADO AND WE HELPED, UH, WHEN WE HAD THE FLOOD DOWN SECOND STREET.
ON THE ICE WE HELPED DURING THE ICE STORM.
BUT WE, WE, ON THE ICE STORM, WE WERE IN COALITION WITH THE CITY AND WE DID THAT AT A SEPARATE SPOT.
WE DIDN'T TAKE THAT DEBRIS INTO THE LANDFILL.
I DON'T MIND DOING A THOUSAND DOLLARS MYSELF, BUT WE JUST ALSO NEED TO VERIFY WHO HAS INSURANCE OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, THAT DOES COME INTO PLAY.
WHY WOULD THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT FOR ONE FAMILY? I, REGARDLESS, YOU SHOULD DO IT FOR ALL OF THEM.
IF THEIR INSURANCE, IF THEIR INSURANCE IS GONNA PAY FOR IT.
I MEAN, YES, BUT ALSO THE OTHERS THAT DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE SHOULD HAVE.
SO YOU'RE PENALIZING THE FAMILY THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE AND ADD IT.
WELL THE, THE THING, THE THING IS IT IS TAKEN WE'RE WE'RE SAYING UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
BUT WE'RE SAYING UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO IF THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN JUST BRING IN UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
NATHAN, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
FOR ME, THIS IS STILL AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.
SO I CAN'T, THAT ULTIMATELY IS UP TO THE HOMEOWNER AND, AND UH, I MEAN ALL WE'RE DOING IS WAIVING UH, OUR FEES.
I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE TO, I GUESS WE'RE REALLY GET INTO THE WEEDS TOO MUCH, BUT IT WOULDN'T HURT JUST TO MAKE SURE.
SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE UP TO, UH, $1,000 PER FAMILY OF THE FAMILIES THAT HAD THEIR HOMES BURNED OUT IN ANDREW LANE AND INCLUDING THE ONE ON ARLINGTON, ARLINGTON LANE.
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THEY WILL NEED TO HAVE VERIFICATION THAT THE, THAT IT HAS CAME FROM, UH, THEIR PLACES AND, AND I THINK THEY NEED TO SIGN OFF THAT IT IS FROM THEIR, THEIR HOUSE.WE, WE WILL NEED ADDRESSES NAMES.
RENTER VERSUS OWNER, DOES THE RENTER GET TO HAUL A THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF THEIR STUFF AND THEN THE OWNER OF THE HOME, IF THEY DIDN'T OWN IT AND THEY, THEY WERE JUST RENTING THE OWNER GET TO HAUL A THOUSAND DOLLARS? I WOULD JUST SAY A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER HOUSE PER RESIDENCE, I'D DO PROPERTY PER A THOUSAND DOLLARS THOUSAND DOLLARS PER ADDRESS.
AND THEN THEY CAN ARGUE THAT OUT.
PENDING WHAT? PENDING THE FIRE MARSHAL CLOSED INVESTIGATION? YES.
JUST ADDING THAT
SO THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WESTINE TO PROVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER RESIDENCE FOR THE STRUCTURES AT ANDREW LANE AND ARLINGTON LANE THAT WERE BURNED DURING THE FIRE PENDING CLOSING INVESTIGATION BY THE FIRE MARSHAL.
I SECOND THAT WAS ALREADY, I'M SORRY.
A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER RESIDENCE? CORRECT.
OKAY, LET'S GO TO, IS THERE EXECUTIVE SESSION? THERE IS NOT.
ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS, YOU'VE HAD A LONG NIGHT SO I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.
I WILL BE SENDING OUT NEW CALENDARS AS YOU HAVE SOME THINGS COMING UP.
BUT THIS WEEK I DO WANNA MENTION COMMISSIONER FULLER WILL BE REPRESENTING US IN TOPEKA AT TRANSPORTATION DAY AT THE CAPITOL.
COMMISSIONER WETTSTEIN WILL BE REPRESENTING, UM, SEWARD COUNTY AT THE K STATE.
UM, MEETING, UM, ON THURSDAY, MARCH 7TH.
I'VE BEEN ASKED TO SIT ON A LEADERSHIP PANEL, UM, AT THE COLLEGE.
AND THEN, UM, MARCH 19TH IS OUR TOWN HALL MEETING.
UM, I KNOW, UM, COMMISSIONER FULLER WAS ASKING US FOR OTHER WAYS TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT, UM, TO TALK ABOUT UM, OUR TOWN HALL MEETING.
AND SO ANNABELLE DID, UM, TRANSLATE OUR FLYER FOR US THANKS TO MELINDA'S.
UM, FAST THINKING AND THEN MELINDA SENT THOSE OUT TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND I HAVE SEEN THEM POSTED AROUND TOWN.
SO PEOPLE DID, UM, BASED ON HER REQUEST FOR THEM TO POST THAT ABOUT OUR TOWN HALL MEETING.
I MEAN WE ALWAYS DO IT IN THE MEDIA, UM, NEWSPAPER, RADIO, SOCIAL MEDIA, ALL OF THAT STUFF.
BUT I DO THINK IT HELPS 'CAUSE I'VE PASSED SOME OF OUR FLYERS POSTED ON WINDOWS ALREADY.
SO, UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I HAVE IS I WAS NOTIFIED ACTUALLY WHILE WE WERE IN THE MEETING.
KDOT IS ASKED IF THEY COULD MEET WITH LOCAL OFFICIALS ON MARCH THE 21ST.
THEY'VE ASKED TO USE YOUR COMMISSION CHAMBERS, UM, FROM NINE TO 10 30.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE GOING OVER THE CONCEPTS AS THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH SIX POINTS.
SO MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR MARCH 21ST FROM 9:00 AM TO 10 30.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE IN HERE AND THAT INVOLVES SAFETY COMMITTEE THAT MORNING, USING THIS ROOM, WE WILL FIND AN ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR SAFETY COMMITTEE.
THEY'RE USUALLY DONE BY THEN, BUT WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATE MEETING PLACED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE COMMISSION ROOM SET UP AND READY FOR THAT.
UM, SORRY, I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE FOR THIS EVENING.
SO WE'RE THREE MONTHS INTO THE GRANT PAYING THE GRANT PEOPLE TO WRITE OUR GRANTS.
MM-HMM,
AND THAT IS FOR AN A FG GRANT.
THAT IS FOR THE BREATHING APPARATUSES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ANOTHER GRANT THAT WE'LL BE APPLYING FOR, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN UM, SEPTEMBER.
UM, OH, I THINK I HAVE THESE WRITTEN DOWN 'CAUSE I REPORTED ON THIS AT COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
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UM, WE DID PUT BACK IN FOR THE COST SHARE GRANT.UM, IT WAS DUE, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN NOTIFIED YET.
UM, WE'RE PUTTING IN FOR THE H TRIPLE R GRANT.
UM, THEY ARE LICKING IN TO GRANTS FOR ME RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING ON THE FAIRGROUNDS COMPLEX THAT COULD POSSIBLY COVER THE STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT ALSO THE LIVESTOCK BARNS, UM, THAT WE NEEDED, UM, TO LOOK AT.
I'VE ASKED THEM TO HELP ME LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE COURTHOUSE THAT THEY COULD HELP WITH AS WELL.
AGAIN, GOT EXCITED 'CAUSE WE THOUGHT WE FOUND ONE AND UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THOSE GRANTS, IT'S BASED ON POPULATION OF 20,000 OR BELOW.
UM, AND THEY'RE WAITING ON FINAL PLANS ON MASON SONY BRIDGE TO HELP US GET TO WORK ON, UM, SOME SMITHSONIAN BRIDGE, UM, GRANTS AS WELL.
UH, THEY DID FIND A GRANT FOR ME THAT WE'RE GONNA APPLY FOR, FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOO.
NOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ASKED ME TO GO OUT, UM, FOR A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FROM PAC AND WICHITA STATE TO JOIN THE CITY ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THEY NOTIFIED ME OF A GRANT OPTION FOR THAT.
SO THERE'S GRANTS OUT THERE THAT THEY'VE HELPED US IDENTIFY, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE CAN APPLY FOR SOME OF THOSE.
AND, BUT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON TOO.
THEY TOLD ME, UM, WITH THEIR ASSESSMENTS AS THEY WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GET PLANS IN PLACE TOO, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE YOUR PLAN IN PLACE, YOU CAN'T APPLY FOR THE GRANT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
AND SO THEY'RE HELPING US GET PREPARATION DONE FOR THAT AS WELL.
YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE CJ? UH, I, I DID A ATTEND A PIPELINE SAFETY MEETING THE OTHER DAY AND I DID ACTUALLY WHEN SOMETHING THROUGH CHANGE, UH, I'M NOT FOR SURE.
I'LL HAVE TO UPDATE ON WHAT HAPPENS TO IT ONCE.
UH, ONCE I GET IT, I GOTTA CHECK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT I, I DID WIN A, UH, I DID WIN A PRIZE AND, AND I'M NOT FOR SURE WHETHER IT, I THINK IT MAY HAVE TO GO GO TO THE COUNTY.
SO IT WAS A, IT WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS PRIZE AND, BUT I'M THINKING IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY 'CAUSE I'D SIGNED UP UNDER SEWARD COUNTY AND THEN CJ WETTSTEIN.
SO, UH, MAY WE'LL SEE WHAT FUND THEM FUNDS GO TO HAVE TO GO TO.
SO, UH, BUT I THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'D EVER WON ANYTHING.
I'M JUST CONTINUING PRAYING FOR THE, UM, THE SHANK FAMILY AND AT THE LOSS OF OUR, OUR GOOD FRIEND AND THANK YOU ALL OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND, UM, WORKING ALL TOGETHER AND KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE.
AND I'LL SHOUT OUT TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR EMS AND ALL OF THOSE, UM, MUTUAL AID THAT HELPED WITH THAT SITUATION.
WELL, MYSELF, I ATTENDED THE COMMUNICATION BOARD MEETING THIS MONTH, COUNCIL ON AGING.
I GOT CIMARRON BASED IN CORRECTIONS AND PLANNING ZONING.
I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP WITH THOSE TWO IF I'M NOT BACK YET.
AND ALSO WE NEED TO BE LOOKING FOR SOME HOSPITAL BOARD MEMBERS.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A POSSIBILITY OF TWO OR THREE OPENINGS ON THAT.
SO WE NEED TO FIND OUT ON THAT.
YOU DO HAVE THREE EXPIRING TERMS ON THE HOSPITAL BOARD.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE KNOW SOME GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE WITH SOME BACKGROUND IN THAT SUBJECT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THOSE ON THE LIST.
ALSO, I'LL BE ATTENDING THE SOUTHWEST KANSAS HIGHWAY ASSOCIATION LATER THIS MONTH AS WELL.
SCOTT, YOU'RE IN OUR PRAYERS TOO.
I JUST WANNA TELL OUR EMPLOYEES HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE 'EM EACH AND EVERY DAY.
UH, EXTRA SPECIAL SHOUT OUT THOUGH TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ALL THAT THEY'VE HAD TO DO AND, AND HELPING OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UM, IN US PERFORMING MUTUAL AID TO THEM ALSO.
YES, I DID FORGET TO MENTION THAT WE JUST GOT DONE WITH WHAT ASCO COUNTY HELPING THEM OUT, SO, YEAH.
I THINK WE'RE DOWN TO SUGGESTION CARDS.
I'D MAKE A MOTION TO, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HELM TO ADJOURN IN A SECOND.
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AYE.